Operation "Sweetheart"

[sunrise089]

Don't we wanna save CR macemen to upgrade later on? Yummy CR3 riflemen!

Yes, but we also want to save everything else

*Knights and HAs are needed to threaten Mutal, and they're our best defensive units (not because they can defend well, but because they can cover many cities at once.)

*Elephants are irreplaceable, and are our only units that defend with odds versus enemy knights, as well as Curaissars if PAL gifts tech to Imperio later.

*Cats don't really go obsolete, and will be crucial to a good loss-to-kill ration when we fight the Imperio mega-stack.

*CRII maces on the other hand are nice, but are no stronger than Drill II Oromo's really...and Drill II upgraded Rifles aren't bad either.

[timmy827]

Logged in and looked around just after turn start; Templars now have 5 maces in Jerusalem (they must have built one on the IT as well as drafting last turn?).

EDIT: One of them was upgraded from an axe. And they chose the CR axe, not the C1/Charge

[sunrise089]

Just a reminder that the attack on Jerusalem commences at just after 12:00pm EST. Some of us are in the chatroom now at http://www.chatzy.com/136099842815 and I'll be on the RaY teamspeak server as well.

[ruff_hi]

log of attack

Spoiler:

The Big Blah

http://www.chatzy.com/136099842815

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Ruff_Hi from x.x.x.213 cleared the room 21 days ago
Ruff_Hi from x.x.x.213 left the chat 21 days ago
MyOtherCar from x.x.x.175 joined the chat 21 days ago
Ruff_Hi from x.x.x.140 joined the chat 25 hours ago
sunrise from x.x.x.194 joined the chat 25 hours ago
sunrise hi
regoarrarr from x.x.x.245 joined the chat 24 hours ago
regoarrarr hi
regoarrarr when is the attack?
Kodii from x.x.x.234 joined the chat 24 hours ago
Kodii turn will probable end in 11 hours
Kodii probably*
Kodii unless Imperio logs in and ends their turn
Kodii make that about 12 hours
regoarrarr ko
regoarrarr ok
sunrise right, i will probably attack right after the turn ticks over
sunrise although if it makes more sense for lurkers, I can attack around this time tomorrow instead
Broker33 from x.x.x.52 joined the chat 21 hours ago
Lord Procyon from x.x.x.6 joined the chat 21 hours ago
MoC from x.x.x.175 joined the chat 20 hours ago
MoC Hi
Lord Procyon: hi
Lord Procyon: yay for a 34 minute late reply
Lord Procyon: oh well...
sunrise from x.x.x.194 joined the chat 19 hours ago
sunrise hi Lord Procyon
Lord Procyon: hello
Lord Procyon: how's life
sunrise life is good, just hoping I can get my PC build I'm putting together completed tonight
Lord Procyon: That
Lord Procyon: that's cool
Lord Procyon from x.x.x.6 joined the chat 18 hours ago
Kodii Oh!
Kodii Did T-Hawk take over already?
Kodii The timer is actually synchronized with real life time
Kodii nm, it would help if I refreshed the screen
Kodii from x.x.x.234 left the chat 16 hours ago
Krill from x.x.x.76 joined the chat 3 hours ago
Krill Hello, anyone mind if I listen to the chat?
Krill Anyone here?
Krill nm
Ruff_Hi from x.x.x.213 joined the chat 2 hours ago
Ruff_Hi I'm here - did I miss it?
Broker33 from x.x.x.24 joined the chat 2 hours ago
Broker33 Is this thing on?
Lord Procyon from x.x.x.6 joined the chat 107 minutes ago
Lord Procyon: it's on
Lord Procyon: we're not doing this for another hour as far as I know
sunrise from x.x.x.194 joined the chat 99 minutes ago
sunrise corrrect
regoarrarr from x.x.x.245 joined the chat 90 minutes ago
regoarrarr howdy
sunrise hi
sunrise good job with colors so far everyone, no duplicates
regoarrarr is olive
regoarrarr so sunrise, do you want to run down the plan? what does our stack have, what's defending, etc
sunrise well I'm not at my civ PC right now, sadly
Ruff_Hi aren't all PCs civ PCs?
sunrise well my work laptop with onboard video certainly isnt a very GOOD civ PC
sunrise anyways, the current count of Templar defenders is 5 maces, 1 longbow, 1 axe, and 1 spear IIRC
Strow from x.x.x.46 joined the chat 67 minutes ago
Strow Hi everyone
regoarrarr hi
Strow So about 13 minutes until the attack?
sunrise right
sunrise 9 now
Strow Ok good. Ill be around to read how it goes.
T-hawk from x.x.x.66 joined the chat 56 minutes ago
sunrise ok guys, heading home...back online in about 5 for the attack
sunrise also, change your color T-Hawk
Strow Aight
T-hawk So any thoughts on Imperio's reaction?
T-hawk I bet they will refuse to declare their war on Templars until we transfer Jerusalem
Strow I think they won't declare war at all.
regoarrarr can we vote if they'll even bother to log in? :-P
Strow Its possible that they won't log back in for a few turns to just stall
T-hawk I'm getting dragged out to lunch here at work... let's make this quick
Sullla from x.x.x.115 joined the chat 41 minutes ago
Sullla hola amigos
Strow ya sunrise should have stayed put and played at lunch
mh from x.x.x.97 joined the chat 40 minutes ago
Ruff_Hi we have an Imperio spy!
mh Who is that?
Ruff_Hi the 'red' person 4 posts above
Strow haha
Ruff_Hi under Sullla ... a bit of a give away with that greeting
mh yes, burn him, burn him
Sullla no comprende inglese
Ruff_Hi oh - that is ok then - he will not be able to understand what we are saying
Lord Procyon: what if he uses babelfish?
Lord Procyon: Though who knows, that just make it worse...
Sullla funny thing is, the foreign language I know is French, not Spanish
Kodii from x.x.x.234 joined the chat 35 minutes ago
Lord Procyon: 3 years of high school spanish here
T-hawk this is a really long 5 minutes from sunrise... I'm going to have to run
Lord Procyon: who knows how much is actually left, lol
Kodii woohoo, le français
Sullla chatted with sunrise on the RaY server, he had to restart, will be back shortly
Strow did the turn flip already?
Kodii it flipped yesterday
Kodii we're 12 hours into the turn
Strow why did we wait so long, only time sunrise had?
regoarrarr i think we waited so more of us could be around
Lord Procyon: yeah
Strow well that worked well
Lord Procyon: there wasn't many people there before
sunrise from x.x.x.60 joined the chat 32 minutes ago
sunrise hi guys
sunrise ok, in game
Sullla the turn rolled over late in the evening EST, middle of the night in Europe - not a good time
sunrise right - yesterday only a few night owl US folks would have been around
Kodii North Americans**
sunrise right
sunrise ok guys, pre-bombard we have 35% with our knights and 31% with CRII maces
regoarrarr what's the defense?
regoarrarr and how many cats do we have? for that matter, what is our force composition, if you have the time
Sullla so Jerusalem should have 5 maces, 1 longbow, 1 axe, and 1 spear if I remember correctly
sunrise ok, defense is now at zero
sunrise 70% with our CRII mace with no cats sacrificed
sunrise ok, enemy strength is what Sullla typed above
Sullla the only real question is to send in 2 or 3 suicide cats
sunrise friendly strength is as follows: 4 knights, 6 elephants, 8 maces, 4 horse archers, 4 pikes, 1 longbow, 10 cats....3 of the cats cant do anything
regoarrarr guess we could send in 1, then 2, then see what our odds are
Strow right
Kodii agreed, our other units are more valuable than our cats
Kodii especially since CT is pumping them out 1 per turn
sunrise ok guys, good news!
sunrise 1 dead cat, but one retreated
Strow that is good
sunrise first cat to survive a battle IIRC
Kodii excellent, how are odds?
regoarrarr woohoo!
sunrise 75% with the mace
Ruff_Hi about time we got a retreat
Strow if we want to use the knights for another attack I say 75% isn't good enough send another cat. IMO
regoarrarr what are the odds iwth the knight?
sunrise 3rd suicide cat was a good call - 98% with the mace now
regoarrarr and agree that 75% for the mace is too low
Strow did we lose the 3rd cat?
sunrise 3rd cat died
sunrise GG born
sunrise first 2 maces have won
regoarrarr vs. maces? or the longbow
Strow Whats the plan for the GG send him to CC?
Sullla we can decide that later - probable goes to Cape Town though
sunrise the first two templar casaulties were maces, yes
regoarrarr i would think that an instructor in cape town
Kodii didn't we want one in GA?
Strow sorry CT not CC
regoarrarr oh right - that's another option
sunrise ok, so a question - we have unpromoted maces....do we want city raider or combat 1?
regoarrarr who are we facing?
Kodii maces?
sunrise obviously maces are nearly obsolete, but we may or may not be attacking the imperio stack in a city
regoarrarr what are odds unpromoted?
sunrise yes, i mistyped earlier....we have killed a mace and a longbow
sunrise remaining defenders are all melee
Ruff_Hi C1 for me
sunrise 73% odds with unpromoted mace
sunrise 90% with unpromited knight
Strow I would have to go short term thinking and city raider because we can hit imperio with our Oromos
Strow and we will be taking more cities now
regoarrarr what about sending the knights?
regoarrarr there are 4 maces, an axe and a spear
regoarrarr probably all of them have 3 cat collateral (so maybe 6.2/8 on the mace)
sunrise sigh
sunrise rachel alexandria the knight just died at 99%
Kodii RIP
sunrise 99.1%
Kodii surely the RNG should realize the Templars have no hope
sunrise ok...now guess what
sunrise i just lost a war elephant
sunrise at 99.9%
Sullla what?!
sunrise 8.8 strength vs 2.7 mace
Strow amazing
Ruff_Hi ok, lets reload and play this turn again
sunrise ok, one defender left
sunrise speak now if you want me to raze the city
Strow Maybe its time to replace general sunrise
Strow No the game is patched right?
Strow So we can view whats left in it before hand
Kodii its only natural, we've already determined that the entire game is against us
Kodii yea view city
sunrise ok, never done this before
sunrise we get a granary, lighthouse, and forge
Strow Unless its something amazing still in the city I thik the dot mappers should pick
Kodii I say keep, we can use Imperio's lack of game as an excuse to keep it from them
sunrise pop 5, 5 turns of revolt
Sullla we pretty much already decided to keep it - comes with some infrastructure, pop 5, saves us a settler
Kodii No way of defending
sunrise for fun, i captured the city with our hill defence longbow
Kodii did we lose it? :P
Strow I love doing that in my personal games.
sunrise no, we get a hill II longbow now
Strow gotta run good job sunrise
Kodii in other news, Broker33 just chose his civ for the RB Pitboss game, one more left to go
sunrise excellent, what did he pick?
Kodii HRE
Ruff_Hi I'll color code this chat and post it to our forum
sunrise thanks ruff
Kodii good stuff


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[ruff_hi]

and a little bit of extra chat ...

Spoiler:

Kodii sunrise, when can we expect your update on the forums?
sunrise typing it now
sunrise just the usual turn report
sunrise have to get back to work so i dont have time yet for a long write-up
sunrise also, any ideas for the new city name in the south?
Kodii full of beautiful screenshots? :P
sunrise the city has bananas, stone, and clams
Kodii how about that suggestion ages ago of naming a city after me? haha
Kodii did we have any colour associated with the dot?
sunrise i dont think so
Sullla you could try "Jungle Fever"
sunrise that works for me
Lord Procyon: obsidion banana?
Lord Procyon: ugh, this chat doesn't update well
Kodii name a city in honour of our relationship with Banana?
Kodii Banana Fever instead of Jungle Fever?
Lord Procyon: That sounds nice
Kodii Is this city going between the stone and the banana?
sunrise yep, on the grass hill
Kodii shadyforce is on the RB forum, so I expect him to make the last civ selection
Sullla yay, work for me tonight!
Kodii i'm excited to see what you come up with
Lord Procyon: you're going to need to make a new forum for all these games
sunrise yeah, i think this will be a very fun game
sunrise i know, we're going to have at least 13 threads, plus the 7 threads from the PBEM game
sunrise although i admit I feel a little out-matched by the pairs of players on teams
Kodii Krill/memphus?
Kodii :P
Lord Procyon: those guys are crazy
Kodii certainly mh and I aren't threatening at all
Lord Procyon: you should see them on the civfanatics mtdg
Kodii I think everyone here is in SANCTA, except maybe sunrise
Sullla you also have an impartial observer who can't talk much about that game
Lord Procyon: yep, I wasn't going to say any spoilers
Sullla on topic, I'll see if we can set up a subforum at RBCiv for the PitBoss game, otherwise the tournament report forum will get too busy
Kodii yea, was just about the mention that
SOOOOO from x.x.x.109 joined the chat 8 minutes ago
Kodii your name looks especially excited today, sooooo
SOOOOO HELLO
Sullla alright, talk to you later everyone
SOOOOO excited?
SOOOOO oh, that'll be the caps lock
sunrise ok guys, little turn report is up
SOOOOO so have we got jerusalem?
sunrise and yes Kodii, you and M_H are still quite threatening
sunrise even if we're about the same skill level, you have a 2v1 advantage
sunrise
Kodii very rue
Kodii true*
sunrise anyways guys, I've got to head back to work....see ya' at the next city attack chat time
Kodii thanks sunrise
Lord Procyon: adios
Lord Procyon: yeah, nice job
Ruff_Hi I'm going to clear the chat room ... any objections?
Lord Procyon: nope, cya all later
T-hawk hang on I just got back
T-hawk let me read it

[Krill]

Thanks for the compliment Lord Procyon.

[mostly-harmless]

Well done everyone, especially sunrise, although we will have to put it loosing two important units at 99+% in his file. Run an extra round, will you!?

Operation Sweetheart successfully completed.

mh

[Dreylin]

Yes, good job all.

Now we have to wait and see if Imerio wakes up, and how they respond.

[MyOtherCar]

Great work team! Sorry I missed the battle, but I've been busy installing my swimming pool. It's about 30 degrees C here!

[Sullla]

We have never had an "Operation" thread fail... Cheers to excellent planning and execution all around!

[Zeviz]

Congratulations.

Is it time for Operation Bloodbath to go into the "finish clearing our continent" stage?