Intelligence Thread - PAL

[RobWorham]

PAL : Ramesses II (Ind/Spi) of Egypt : 6 players

OK, what do we know about PAL? Please post below, or amend, the following posts if you know anything about the civ in question, individual team members, or their style of play, etc etc. The more info we can get the better we will be able to deal with them when the time comes for action.

[RobWorham]

Civilization information :

Traits:

Starting techs:

Unique Unit :

Unique Building :

Comments and Analysis :

[RobWorham]

Team Information :

Communications email : whiplash@wi.rr.com

[RobWorham]

Player Information :

Atomation


crescentfresh


IanDC


jobe of cologne


jonta


whip[lash (TL)

[Dave_Shack]

bump

[UnOrthOdOx]

Well, I'll copy from the other thread now that this is visible.

my experience with PAL members in general:

The Ladder lends itself to a rush strategy by it's very design. The types of games they play encourage short games, which in turn encourages surprise strikes on neighbors by minimizing the reaction time neighbors have.

This in turn leads to a snowball effect, successful rush = more cities = more troops = more rush, and the typical winner of a ladder game is the one who is the best rusher out of the gate.

This is a valid strategy anywhere, but particularly in ladder games, and ladder players typically play ladder games, almost exclusively, and thus hone this rush to perfection.

In Civ III, this was nearly universally a sword rush.

In Civ IV, I have seen it in many forms from archers or chariots to axes, to horses to cats/trebs at the latest.

The problem becomes that with a team comprised mostly/solely of rush perfectionists, many alternative strategies become lost, and all rests on the rush gambit. This is coupled by the fact that demogames are slower than the average ladder game, and the opponents have more time to respond to a rush threat. This can lead to ladder players underestimating the required force to pull off a successfull rush.

PAL recognizes this potential, and often attempts to garner a partner to help mitigate the risk involved. Yet, they are often easily manipulated into being the primary force, and thus assuming most of the risk.

Furthermore, where a wise general would recognize this lack of force to complete a rush, and instead parlay it into a choke/squeeze maneuver in preparation for a final assault later, I've found ladder players to either continue headlong and attempt to do as much damage as possible instead of keeping the units around as a harrassing force, or less frequently withdrawing all together.

[RobWorham]

Communications email : whiplash@wi.rr.com

[Lancer]

When I click that link it informs me that I don't have a connection to the internet. Very odd, since I assume they sent me that message over it.

[Lancer]

Here's the message I wrote and Geo sent...

While we are interested in good relations we suggest that good relationships are developed over time. Let us build a strong foundation based on real cooperation. As it turns out your civ is in a blocking position which is holding up our explorer from doing more exploring. You stand to gain nothing from letting us through while we could gain much...except that we both could benefit from the good will which is the foundation of any true alliance. Will you do for us something for nothing...at least at this moment? Believe me, you have in us people who are capable of gratitude and who, though rabbits, have the memories of elephants. We would be grateful.

The relationship you seek can be found in us. We are in a corner, we need to get out. You are in the middle, and need friends. I think we can use this as a foundation for future co-operation.

Now, may we pass?


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Considering how long it took to get it out to them it might be a while before they reply, if they do.