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  • #16
    Originally posted by Lancer
    One of the rules mention no changes to the basic program, yes?
    Mods are not really favoured in demo games here - they can be a pain in the arse, particularly when patches get involved.

    Also - not everyone wants to run mods - and the point of demo games is for as many people as possible to be involved.
    I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life - anybody's life, my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.

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    • #17
      I'd like a good dollop of earlyish contact with a majority of the other teams. Not necessarily right at the beginning of the game, and not right on our doorstep, but close enough to get some diplomacy going fairly early in the game.

      I'd like the effective use of naval units to be an integral part of the game, if everything is conducted over land, then we are dismissing a large part of the civ tech tree.

      I'd really like a fair proportion of the special resources to be geographically concentrated. That way trade is positively encouraged, which will add yet another dimension to the diplomacy web. If every team has numerous and varied resources then their is less need to maintain good diplomacy, or mount carefully considered military campaigns.

      As stated before, I'd much rather the community gives Keygen a brief as to what general idea we'd like, rather than 'We want Map X, with climate Y and sea level Z.......'
      Last edited by RobWorham; February 24, 2008, 22:16.
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      • #18
        How specific and exacting do we get with resource allocation? Do we say gems = 2 x number of teams, and 80% of those should be within a 10 hex radius? I would be concerned with some critical resources like iron, coal, oil and uranium falling under one or two civs. Maybe those four should appear at least once within 10 hexes of our starting point?
        Yes, negotiations could take some time.

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        • #19
          Good points Chuckman!!

          I am trying to work towards as unspecific a brief as possible to :

          A: Reduce the amount of pre game micro-managing by various teams to arrive at a map that is as ideal as possible for their desired civ choice. I think this may also reduce the amount of pre game 'chest puffing' that is already going on, and is sure to continue as the set up continues. I don't know about everyone else, but this seems to me to be a sure way to put off the casual gamer we all profess to want to attract.....

          B: Increase the flexibility and artistic license for Keygen to design a map which could include as many unique features and interesting scenarios as his imagination allows, something that is not possible by using the in game map generator, and something that has proven very popular in the Tri-League tournament (as you well know )

          Indeed the militaristic resources should be available , in one form or another, to all teams, especially copper and iron. The latter ones could be located a bit further away, but that all depends on what map we end up with.......
          Let your every day be full of joy, love the child that holds your hand, let your wife delight in your embrace, for these alone are the concerns of humanity.
          The BtS Pitboss Team Democracy Game has just started!!!
          Come and test your metal in the Apolyton Civ4 Beyond the Sword Tri-League Tournament
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          • #20
            I think we need to be very clear on our distinction between luxury resources and military ones.
            I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life - anybody's life, my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.

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            • #21
              Military = copper, iron, horses, ivory, oil, coal and aluminium
              Luxuary is most of the rest, save perhaps for those resources which double as construction time decreaser like gold.
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              • #22
                I don't think that's what he meant...
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                • #23
                  Guess you need to elaborate then.
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                  • #24
                    Now you're just being obtuse
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Zoid
                      I don't think that's what he meant...


                      Originally posted by GeoModder
                      Guess you need to elaborate then.


                      Originally posted by Zoid
                      Now you're just being obtuse
                      I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life - anybody's life, my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.

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                      • #26
                        Well, then I just keep it plain and simple: no tinkering whatsoever with the map.
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                        • #27
                          I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life - anybody's life, my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.

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                          • #28

                            Have a little mercy on poor Keygen.
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                            • #29
                              Okay.......


                              Spoilsport.
                              I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life - anybody's life, my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.

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                              • #30
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