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**Carch** · August 10, 2008, 15:49

Nicely done, guys.

I tried for the early Apostolic Palace victory, but for some reason just couldn't pull it off. Recovering from that took me much longer than I wanted for the space race victory.

**Hokiemon** · August 14, 2008, 10:56

My N19 Strategy

Since I was fortunate enough to come in 1st place for the N19 game, I though I'd share how I played through this game with everyone.

First I'll say that the only thing I didn't like about this game was having two leaders named Gilgamesh. I'm OK with having two AI Civs with the same nationality, but IMO, one of the Sumerian leaders should have been renamed, or else use a Civ with multiple leaders, such has having two Egypts, with Hatshepsut and Rameses has the Leaders. My reason for this is because when Hannibal comes along and demands that you stop trading with Gilgamesh, you don't have a way to ask Hannibal, did you mean Gilgamesh the Orange or Gilgamesh the Purple.

Since Saladin is Spiritual and Protective, I decided from the start to try for a Cultural or Religious victory. I settled in place, and got 69 Gold from the Goody Hut in the city radius. My initial build order in Mecca was...

Warrior
Worker (city size had increased to 2)
Warrior
Settler
Barracks (whipped: 1 population saved 4 turns)
Archer
Archer
Settler (whipped: 1 population saved 3 turns)

Built 2nd city, Medina, about 5E of Mecca to claim a Copper resource. With a Copper Mine and some irrigated plains tiles, this made a pretty good production city.

Built 3rd city, Damascus, about 5N of Mecca (on same river) to claim Elephant/Ivory and Spice resources. I eventually built some cottages on the flood plains around the city, which, paired with the improved resources, made Damascus a pretty good science city.

Since your first 3 cities are usually your top 3 culture cities, I tried to build any world wonders in these 3 cities to assist in a cultural victory. As best as I can remember, these are the world wonders I built in this game...

Mecca
The Oracle
The Apostolic Palace
Shwedagon Paya
The Spiral Minaret

The Temple of Artemis (in Medina)
The Great Library (in Damascus)

I eventually won a religious/diplomatic victory, but had a good start on a cultural victory with these 3 cities. I was able to found 4 religions in this game, and each of these cities was a holy city, which also helped with their culture (Hinduism in Mecca, Judaism in Medina, Christianity in Damascus, Islam in Baghdad).

I wound up founding 4 more cities, and captured 3 barbarian cities, so had 10 cities when I won the game.

Only had one short war with Hannibal, he tried to capture one of the barbarian cities I had captured, but I managed to defeat his forces and keep the city.

After building The Apostolic Palace, I tried to spread the Palace religion to the other civs ASAP. Took a long time to get Open Borders with Hammurabi, and I initially gifted a Missionary to Hatshepsut, but she never used it to spread the religion, so I had to send a 2nd missionary into Egypt and spread it myself.

The game won't call for a religious leader victory if you have enough votes to vote yourself in, so I was running the Free Religion civic when spreading the religion to the last few Civs. When the vote came, I voted for myself and immediately switched to the Pacifism civic. I think this would have given me enough votes to win by myself but, if I remember correctly, both Gilgameshs and Cyrus also voted for me in the election.

Had to go out of town for a couple of weeks, so I'm behind in getting the N20 game started, but will try and get that one in before the deadline.

**Hokiemon** · August 14, 2008, 11:37

My N19 Research Path

Here is the research path I followed in winning the N19 game.

Polytheism (founded Hinduism in Mecca)
Hunting
Animal Husbandry (finished early via Goody Hut)
[needed AH for cow resource near Mecca]
Mining
Bronze Working
Archery
Meditation
Agriculture
Pottery
Masonry
Monotheism (founded Judaism in Medina)
Writing
Priesthood
Iron Working
Aesthetics
Theology (free from building The Oracle; Christianity founded in Damascus)
Drama
Alphabet
Code of Laws (free from Great Prophet)
Started Philosophy, but Taoism founded in distant land, so switched to Literature before it was finished
Mathematics
Music
[Gilgamesh the Purple asks for Drama, given. I ask him for Fishing and get it]
[Trade Mathematics to Cyrus for Sailing & 20 Gold]
[Great Prophet = +1034 toward research of Devine Right; reduced research time from 36 turns to 10 turns]
[trade Theology & Literature to Gilgamesh the Purple for Feudalism]
Devine Right (free with Great Artist from being 1st to research Music; Islam founded in Baghdad)
Paper
[trade Drama & 20 Gold to Cyrus for Calendar]
Construction (finished early via trade to Hatsheput for Calendar)
Civil Service
[trade Paper & Music to Cyrus for Metal Casting, Compass, World Map & 40 Gold)
Horseback Riding
Currency
[trade Civil Service to Hannibal for Machinery & World Map]
Engineering
[Gilgamesh offers Philosophy & 10 Gold for Machinery; accepted]
Guilds
Banking
[Great Scientist = +1638 toward research of Education; reduced research time from 15 turns to 4 turns)
Education
Liberalism
[trade Guilds to Hatshepsut for Optics & World Map]
Economics (free from 1st to discover Liberalism)
Gunpower
[free Great Merchant from 1st to discover Economics = +1126 toward research of Printing Press; research time reduced from 13 turns to 5 turns]
Printing Press
Nationalism
Chemistry
>>>> Game Won <<<<

**RobWorham** · August 14, 2008, 14:18

Great info Hokiemon!!!

My apologies about the duplicate leader. I constructed this game late at night after a long hard week at work. I guess that glaringly obvious mistake slipped through the net...........

**Nugog** · August 14, 2008, 17:47

Nice write up Hokiemon!

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