UPDATE***the first phase of the EC3 List is complete!

[MarkG]

my guess is 23:59 Apolyton time(EST)...

[Zanzibar]

Korn,

The final shapes must be very, very exact and specific, or could we write some options there (there are many different opinions in my thread, and I don't want to be the ultimate judge).

[Hugo Rune]

Will you "weed out" any ideas that do not have final drafts or do they stay? If you like an idea but the "owner" doesn't seem to be willing to write a final draft can someone else do so?

[korn469]

Hugo Rune

you bring up something i hadn't thought of...if the owner doesn't write a summary and somebody else wants to and that person doesn't have an idea they can go ahead and write a summary

REMINDER

today is the last day to get in the final drafts! You have to 11:59 EST on Wednesday March 8, 2000 (23:59 apolyton time). That is today...tommorrow we will ope up the voting threads

korn469

[Hugo Rune]

I have an Idea, could I write a summary for a Fix?

Will there be a "fresh start" with new threads in the third round?

[raingoon]

Korn469

Alternatively, if somebody does not write a final draft, per se, you could simply use their original version and let the voting process weed it out -- or put it in.

raingoon

[don Don]

I thought this was not supposed to be a List. It seems that most topics are turning into Yet Another List.

I thought this was supposed to be only what is essential. But many topics are turning into what a few people think are "neat" ideas rather than something that "I probably won't buy Civ3 unless this is fixed or added." I've been trying to steer some of the ideas away from micromgmt nightmares etc (even though in some cases I actually like the ideas) to no avail.

[Seeker]

Well, there are definitely three essential essentials IMO:
1.Super, seperate Scenario Editor(role slot system improvements too)

2. Multiplayer Improvements (simultaneous)

3. Improved, imperialism like trade.

Everything else is fixes or candy.

[MidKnight Lament]

don Don - If nothing else they'll get a feel for we want. They don't have to stick to the idea like glue. In fact half of the text in each idea is just a wishlist that expands upon their base idea.

Perhaps for each idea that gets voted in, a 50 word summary of each idea should be included as well. Just so that we make sure they get the gist of it without the peripherals. Maybe you'll say that it's not worth it...

However it happens, I can't see that the Essential List will be detrimental to our efforts. I think it will be a help to them in way or another. Be it small or large.

[korn469]

ok guys the nominating process is over...now things get tough because we have to decide which five ideas in both lists are Essential...this is The Essential Civ3 List

i am now in the process of setting up the lists

korn469

[korn469]

they did not submit final drafts so like the email and the various posts here said...those ideas not submitting final drafts were not added to the voting list

however if there are Final Drafts that i missed accidently i will add them to the list...i see that father beast just now submitted his final draft so i am going to add it now

korn469
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[korn469]

at Steve Clark's request i wrote a final draft for new modes of victory and added it to the voting

korn469

[raingoon]

Korn469,

I edited a final draft for Disease and just posted it. I hope you can include it. In the interest of legitimizing the EC3 I'm taking your cue and trying to do last minute postings on behalf of those who may not be on-line regularly, or for whatever reason haven't responded to the schedule. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and helping out where i can.

[korn469]

raingoon

some people who have been on the forums recently might just be a little late...so we will give them a little time to submit their final drafts...if they do not then here is the system we will use to save to post a final draft

1. if somebody specifically asks for a final draft because they want to vote for it

you and i cannot ask for these final drafts if we intend to write them

korn469

[korn469]

here is an email i sent out earlier today to the EC3 Email List

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</font>***The Essential Civ3 Mail Update!***

Current Status of the EC3 list:

The deadline for submitting Final Drafts ended yesterday at a minute before
midnight, however i am allowing a short grace period for those who still
wish for their ideas to be included in the EC3 List voting proceedure.

Voting has already begun and will continue until 11:59pm Wednesday March 15
2000 (23:59 apolyton time). No votes will be counted until then, and a
person can edit their post to change their votes if they wish. Two new final drafts submitted late were added to the EC3 List. No More Instant City Conversions added by Father Beast, and New Modes Of Victory. I wrote final draft of it at Steve Clark's request since caranide_ has been missing in
action.

About voting proceedure, here are the following rules set forth:

• *Each member has five votes in this thread.
  *Please list the five fixes you vote for in one post.
  *Please make your list in numeric order.
  *Please only post to this thread once (that being your post containing your
  votes)
  *Please no disscussion in this thread...just list your votes

here is the address of the voting threads:
http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum28/HTML/000344.html http://apolyton.net/forums/Forum28/HTML/000346.html

please take the time to vote! thanks for all of the participation so far! if

you have any questions or comments please email me.

korn469

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