<u>Diplomacy summary 2.2</u> - By Harel Eilam ( harel@isdn.net.il )
A little updated version. Some notions I had, slight error-correcting, and nice things I found over the various forums. It seems like a good idea to refresh the old summary...
* The new nationality sections answers the questions on what to do with splintering nations and conquered ones.
* The peace meeting summarize the various information on this subject from all over the summary.
* Section 6 got a major overhull.
* Added a few options to the diplomacy screen.
* Made section 1 a little easier to understand.
* Added a few names to the honor list.
<u>Index:</u>
1. Pacts
2. Treaties
3. Special operations
4. Trade
5. Diplomatic option/screen
6. Negotations and the AI
7. Diplomatic relations
8. Atrocities and complaints
9. Peace meeting
10. Minor/Major AI
11. Nationality
1. Pacts
A pact is an agreement between three of more players ( AI or humans ) to work toghter under the same ground. The most common pact is a militarial where several players can unite their own forces, but other pacts also exist, a trade, science and diplomatacy pacts.
1.1 Diplomatic pacts are the most basical ones. They serve is a formal meeting house for many civs, but rarely hold any real power. It acts much like the UN, or SMAC concuil. AI have a very good chance of joining a diplomatic pact, more then any other form of pacts.
A player may address a diplomatic pact with the following things:
1.1.1. Expel a member ( only if he commited to a serious atrocity ). Maybe this can be only temporerly?
1.1.2 Suggest a new member.
1.1.3 Suggest a strike ( form of limited war ) or a player which commitied a serious atrocitiy.
1.1.4 Suggest a full scale war, but only on a player which commited genocide.
1.1.5 Signing a global trade treaty ( bonus to trade ).
1.1.6 Electing a pact leader ( like SMAC concuil leader ).
1.1.7 Finanacing a global project ( like in SMAC ).
1.1.8 Ask for embargo on a player ( commited minor/major atrocities ).
1.1.9 Call for an open debate ( chat, when caller set the topic and talks first ).
1.1.10 Sign any of the following treaties: 2.4.1, 2.4.2., 2.4.3, 2.4.4.
1.1.11 A united wonder project for all the members of the pact ( see 2.3.2 ).
1.1.12 Ask to strip a player of Veto power ( see 1.27 ).
1.1.13 Demand a player ( in the pact or outside ) to make peace. This could be further induce with an aultimetum: sign peace in X turns, or we declare war on you.
1.1.14 Ask pact to re-evalute borders: diplomatic pacts can advise on borders, and delcare that one nation must pass X land to the other side. If not, the pact may declare war on the refuser.
1.1.15 Demand cease-fire: the pact can demand a cease-fire between nations, and send force to inforce it.
1.1.16 Establish de-militarilized zone: the pact eract a zone where only her military forces may enter. Any other force may be destroyed.
1.1.17 Give autonomy: the pact may demand a nation which conquered an entire civ to give here autonomy. Applies only to confed and annixed status, not vassal ( see 7.1 ).
1.1.18 Condemn player: if a player has commited atrocities, you can suggest a global complaint against him ( more hostility ).
1.1.19 suggest a global donation to the pact: everyone must donate X units ( see 1.1.105 ).
1.1.20 Call for peace meeting in a big war ( see 9 ). A mediator that calls for a peace meeting get a good repution bonus.
1.1.21 Ask to save a civ which is under un-fair attack ( see 8.1.2.14 )
1.1.22 Ressurect dead civs: the UN charter can assign a city which belongs to some of the members ( he could volunteer maybe, for extra repution ). The city then becomes the first city of a now dead race, like the jewish recreation on Israel. Not applyable to dead human players civ. ( see 11.3 ).
1.1.23 Join protectorate: once a protectorate is delcared ( see 11.7 ), you can ask the entire pact to help enforce it.
1.1.24 Ask for liberation: ask a occuiping civ to give an annixed/confed nation ( see 7.1 ) full liberation.
1.1.100 The diplomatic pact can either be created in reserved to specific members, like in the other pacts, or can be like the UN/SMAC concuil: it's automaticly created and all civ's around the world are joined. If it's a universal pact, then 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 can't exist.
1.1.101 Should the diplomatic pact be resereved to only when you have the UN wonder?
1.1.102 Just joining the pact should gives you a small bonus ( if, unlike 1.1.3, it's a pact with admition and membership ). Maybe +% to diplomatic realtions?
1.1.103 Should it be reserved to only democracies? If true, what happens when a member changes it's goverement type AFTER he joined? Is he automaticly expeled, or it there a vote?
1.1.104 The UN shouldn't be a wonder, or it should be modified, in the following options:
1.1.104.1 Several players reach a certain tech level.
1.1.104.2 A certain player discovers "modern politics".
1.1.104.3 it's available right from the start.
1.1.104.4 No certain nation builds the UN wonder, but several nations toghther.
1.1.104.5 The UN wonder can't be destroyed, and if it can't, it should be able to be rebuilt.
1.1.104.6 The UN should be a wonder, with a large upkeep. If the upkeep isn't payed, the UN is shut-done. Any civ that pays for the UN unkeep ( by donating or by owning it ), has a large repution bonus ( see 7..5 ).
1.1.105 A player can donate forces ( maybe only temporarily? ) to the pact. Those units will be used by the AI to enforce the decisions of the pact. Gives a good repution.
1.1.106 Maybe the UN can automaticly appear after a large-scale global war?
1.2 Military pact is the most used pact there is. It's a union of players for a military might and united protection.
A player may address the concuil with the following things:
1.2.1 Suggest a new member.
1.2.2 Expel a member ( requires only a vote ).
1.2.3 Declare a war ( on a player which is not in thr pact ).
1.2.4 Sign any of the following treaties with any specific member: 2.2.1, 2.2.2, 2.2.2, 2.2.3, 2.2.4, 2.2.5, 2.2.6
1.2.5 All the treaties from 1.2.4 may be signed globely: for example, 2.2.2 means all member share intel, 2.2.3 means all members share some units, etc. 2.2.4 can't be signed globely, but 2.2.5 means all members will pool thier resources to create a single, unified project.
1.2.6 Designate target: when a war was declared by the pact on a single enemy, you may suggest a specific target for the pact to concentrate.
1.2.7 Summon war meeting: similar to 1.1.9
1.2.8 All members in the pact must be allied to one another. If not, joining the pact automaticly allies you with all the others.
1.2.100 Automaticly, all members of a military pact can't attack any other member without breaking the pact. Similar to NATO.
1.3 Emergency pact: emergency pact is similar to a militarial pact. It's created to the sole purpose of destroying a specific enemy. The pact automaticly disolve when the enemy is destroyed, or peace is signed.
1.3.1 the only possible actions you can make in an emergency pact is to call for new members, direct the assault ( see 1.2.6 ), and call for a war meeting ( see 1.2.7 ). The treaties can be signed by the normal diplomacy channel, but not via the pact screen.
1.3.2 If one side of the pact makes peace with the designated enemy, then all sides of the pacts sign peace with him.
1.4 Science pact: Science pacts are a group of nations that share their intellectul knowladge between themselfs.
Players may suggest the following things to the concuil:
1.4.1 Add new member.
1.4.2 Expel a member ( requires only a vote ).
1.4.3 Signing any of the following treaties: 2.1.2, 2.1.3, 2.1.4, when 2.1.3 and 2.1.4 can be suggested as a global effort.
1.4.100 All members automaticly sign 2.1.1 between themselfs.
1.4.101 Beyond the bonus that is recieved via 1.4.100, all members get a +1% per member to thier total research points ( for example, 10 members, not including yourselfs, will give you +10% to your RP output ).
1.4.102 All members in the pact must be in peace with one another.
1.5 Trade pact: or an economic pact, a union of nation for better profit margin.
You may ask the concuil to do the following things:
1.5.1 Add new member.
1.5.2 Expel a member ( requires only a vote ).
1.5.3 Suggest any of the following treaties: 2.3.1, 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5, 2.3.7, 2.3.8 to a certain player or offer to the highest bidder.
1.5.4 You may offer to share a global wonder ( see 2.3.2 ) to all the members, or a specific one.
1.5.5 Demand a monopoly ( see 2.3.6 ) from all the members, or a specific one.
1.5.6 Ask for sancations on a specific player ( outside the pact ).
1.5.100 All players must be at peace with one another. All players gets +1% to trade profit for every member in the pact ( not including the player ).
1.6 Questions in pacts.
1.6.1 Should the total number of pacts be limited?
1.6.2 Should a player be restricted to be a leader of no more then one pact?
1.6.3 Should the establishment cost a certain fee?
1.6.4 Should membership in a pact cost a certain fixed fee?
1.6.5 Does leaving the pact cause some damage? Pay the other members some fixed fee?
1.6.6 Is expeling members should be temporily or permenant? In case of diplomatic pacts ( which can only expel a member if he commited atrocities ), should he be able to join after X turns?
1.6.7 Should you have the option to have "secret" pacts? All considering, it can only be seriously used in military combat, as trade and science pacts automaticly recieve too much attention. A "secret" pact won't be informed, or shows in your civ info. But it should cost considerbly more then "normal" pacts.
1.7 Veto power is in the hands of the pact founder, and maybe the biggest nations in the pact, around 10-20% of them. Veto can be cast to over-rule any decisions, but it does cause some hostality toward you from the oppisition. Veto can be re-overruled with a 66% vote in the oppisition. Vote power can be also stripped with a 66% vote.
2. Treaties
2.1 Science treaties: Can be signed via the Science pact ( see 1.4 ), or via the diplomacy screen when the diplomatic realtions are atleast peaceful.
2.1.1. Science treaty: an agreement which gives both sides +% to science output.
2.1.2 Research treaty: Side A pays side B money, and side B in exchange gives all new technology he researched.
2.1.3 Tech treaty: Both sides pool their RP togther and research a specific tech. After it's discovered, the pooling ends.
2.1.4 Mutual research: Both sides share all new technology they accquire by research.
2.2 Militarial treaties : Can be signed via the Military pact ( see 1.2 ), or via the diplomacy screen only when you are allied with the other side.
2.2.1 Intelligence treaty: You may not spy on other side, and you both share all reports on other hostile nations. You can even pool toghter your intel to sabatoge and espionage toghter.
2.2.2 Survlience treaty: shared maps and all known enemy units location.
2.2.3 Defence treaty: both sides position some military units in each other cities for protection.
2.2.4. Design contract: Side A pays Side B to design and build a prototype of a unit. Side B gets 10% of the cost. This tready can only work if:
2.2.4.1.1 You have a unit workshop like SMAC.
2.2.4.1.2 A certain idea in the unit section will be included: that the stats of the prototype units will be better the higher your tech and the more money and time you invest in the development.
2.2.4.2 Side B can't, however, construct the design himself unless side A sells it to him.
2.2.5. United project: Side A and side B both design a prototype toghter ( similar to treaty 2.2.4 ). Both pool resources and the end product is available to both of them.
2.2.6 Lend units: Side A pays side B, and recieve several military units for it's use, for a limited time. Those units can't however, attack the original owner cities or land.
2.2.7. Right of passage: side A may pass and refuel at side B bases.
2.3. Trade treaties : Can be signed via the Trade pact ( see 1.5 ), or via the diplomacy screen when the diplomatic realtions are atleast peaceful.
2.3.1 Construction contract: Side A pays money to Side B, by ordering construction of several units. Side B select a city, which then invest all money to speed-up production of the required units. Side B get 10% of the construction cost. ( Used when you have a good construction ratio in one city, mainly because of a good wonder ).
2.3.2 United wonder: Both sides may construct a wonder. This treaty may only work for wonders that effect society at general ( and not only give tech [ darwin voyage ], a benefit to a certain city or a certain continent ). They pick a city where it's built: but the location doesn't matter since it effect all cities. All cities gives 10% of both nations of there labor to build the wonder. The two nations split the maintance cost. IMPORTANT! Also applies to star ships.
2.3.3 Hired workers: Side A pays side B to gain worker support. Side A select a city, and side B also. Half of all the labor force in side B cities is passed, for the duration of the treaty, to side A city.
2.3.4 Port contract: Side A pays side B to build a harbor/dock at his land for refuel.
2.3.5. Trade passage: Side B allows side A to build trade routes over his land, but he gets 10% of all trade income.
2.3.6 Monopoly: Side A ask side B to only buy a certain item from him ( used in a commodity system, see economics/trade ).
2.3.7. Funded trade: Side A pays side B to build some caravans and establish a trade route with another civ that normally he can't because he has no contact of way to her. Side B gets 10% of the income.
2.3.8 Development area: Side A pays side B for the automated "rent" of some of this settlers. Those settlers then go, and build the job they are hired for: "build a road from here to there", "make farms", etc. Very useful when needs to clean a lot of pollution after a massive nuclear strike.
2.3.8.2 If the public works idea from CtP is added, then side A can "buy" work points from side B for a sum, and use it himself.
2.4. Agreements: Can be signed via the Diplomacy pact ( see 1.1 ), or via the diplomacy screen when the diplomatic realtions are atleast not of war.
2.4.1 Forbiden weapons: Both nations can agree not to use a weapon that is not classified as a nuke or illegal. For example, both nation can agree not to use Catapults, IBCM or tanks. You may also request that only a certain side won't use this tech. ( Example: in startrek, the federation agreed not to used clocking technology of any sort ).
2.4.2 Limited arms: Both sides agree not to use an illegal weapons.
2.4.3 Free air: Both sides agree that be "pollution-safe" after X turns. Meaning, the popultion level must not raise above Y level, or the civ is fined ( forcing the civ to hurry up and build dams, solar panels and recycling systems ).
2.4.4 No-nuke: both sides shell not build any nuclear missiles, subs or power plants.
3. Special operations
Special operations are the product of special units. In civ III, those were the Diplomat and the spy. However, there is a dispute on which operations should go to each unit, and some suggested even new types of special units. Therefor, I divided this section into two: one listing all the possible operations, and the other all the units and suggested things they can do ( with all the disputes ).
3.1.1 Peaceful operations: those operations can be done at any time, with little danger of discovery, or damage if caught.
3.1.1.1 Investigate city: allows the player to see, for one turn, the management of the enemy city. The entire city radii, what building it has, and the popultion distribution.
3.1.1.2 Establish ambsassy ( serves to give you key statistics on enemy civ every turn ).
3.1.1.3 Military status: see the positions of all the units which belog to the city, even those that are outside in the field right now.
3.1.1.4 Steal map: gain the empire map. Without tile improvements or units locations.
3.1.1.5 Get secret intel: see 4.4.
3.1.2 Hidden opeations: those operations can't be done against an ally which you signed an espionage treaty with. It's moderatly dangerous, and may create hostility toward you if you are caught.
3.1.2.1 Sway away unit: pay X amount, and the targeted enemy unit become yours. The expreince level of the operator increase the chance, by high unit morale, exp and proper SE options reduce the chance. Only for Infantry, or other cheap units. If it's a costly unit, its consideres a "war-time operations" ( see 3.1.3 ). Also, it's only applies for manned unit. ( For missiles, see 3.1.3.5 )
3.1.2.2 Steal technolgy. A spy shouldn't be able to steal a technology far above thier current tech tree
status. Even when a technology is stolen, thier should be a delay before you can construct the various improvements obtained from the stolen technology.
3.1.2.3 Steal blue-print: get the design of a certain unit ( if the project idea is used, see units thread ).
3.1.2.4 Steal money: the cost of operations must always be higher then what is gained by the process. The advantge is that it drains the treasure of the enemy.
3.1.2.5 Steal goods: for a certain turn, a certain amount of shields from the enemy city is moved to your nearest city ( or spy home city ), and boost production.
3.1.2.6 Damage unit: reduce unit health by 50%, and cripple it ( can't move for X turns ). The morale level of the unit is also reduced to the lowest level ( not exp, however ). The operator unit is destroyed.
3.1.2.7 Cause revolt: has a low chance the city will revolt. Still cheaper and with higher chance then a succesful bribing.
3.1.2.8 Nuclear deployment: see the positions of all the nukes in the civ, or atleast parts.
3.1.2.9 Rescue operator: if an operator has failed in it's mission, it caught and may be rescued for X turns.
3.1.2.10 Donate to terrorists: create an AI raider spy which will work against the city itself. Reduce the danger from yourself, but it cost a lot and the terrorist is less capale then your own operator.
3.1.2.11 Donate to criminal ( see economics thread for pirates ): you may donate money which goes directly to the pirates AI, which can then harrass the enemy even more.
3.1.2.12 Raid trade route: steal a low amount of money off any trade routes, or caravans, moving near you.
3.1.2.13 Sneak in supplies: only cities that are under vassal or autonomy status can be targeted thus ( see 7.1 ). Increase the chance the AI will support your request to breakaway. Cost food and money. ( see 11.4 for effects ).
3.1.3 War-time operations: those operations can only be done against an enemy with you are atleast in cease-fire with. If caught, it will move you directly to war.
3.1.3.1 Bribe a city: pay X amount, and the city is yours. However, you can't bribe a city which has military units in it, and the more resilent the enemy civ is ( set by her social engineering options ), the bigger the change the operation will fail alltogher. Cost of bribing, and chance of mission acomplishment also depends on the number and quality of the military units in the city, and the morale of the people of the citizens. All around, the morale should effect the cost of bribing more then anything else.
3.1.3.2 Nuke a city: acts just like a nuke hit the city, however with less pollution ( more advance bomb, if it's that small ), and bypassing SDI defence. However, a key observation was made: the cost of nuking a city must be higher then the cost of a normal nuke ( reasonable, isn't it? ).
3.1.3.3 Pollute/Poison water: reduce city popultion.
3.1.3.4 Destroy city building.
3.1.3.5 Steal nuke/missile: allows you to steal any un-maned that are sitting in a city ( like missiles and nukes ).
3.1.3.6 Kill nation leader ( only in capitol city ). Throws the entire nation to revolt, for a turn or two.
3.1.3.7 Destory trade route: destroy a trade route of the enemy, and kill all caravans on it.
3.1.3.8 Plant virus: plant a virus that spreads along the trade routes. Damage is set by the medical level fo the attacked civ.
3.2.1 Some claim that since operators are a single man, or a very small group, it should require no support and cause no unhappiness to the popultion when outside city radii. Ofcourse, this could make spies too powerful.
3.2.2 Spies ( or other, fiting operators ) should have one or more of the following abilities/powers:
3.2.2.1 A good line of sight ( 2 ).
3.2.2.2 Quick movement.
3.2.2.3 Hiding: can only be found by scouts and other spies.
3.2.2.4 Use enemy railraods ( considering that the bug from civ II would dis-allow forgien countries to use your own railroads in normal conditions ).
3.2.2.5 Can board enemy transporters un-noticed ( unless there is a scout on the ship ), and requires 0 cargo capacity on your own carriers ( but only for a single operators ).
3.2.2 The suggested special operators are:
3.2.2.1 Spys: for most of the "hidden operations ( see 3.1.2 ).
3.2.2.2 Diplomat: for embassies and bribing cities.
3.2.2.3 Sabatour: for all the "war-like" operations ( see 3.1.3 ).
3.3 It was suggested that you will give the operators instructions, and not the direct assignment. Meaning? For example, you can tell your spy to: "recon around ( X,Y ) for X turns, then proceed to city X where you will bomb Y, and continue to bomb the following X city improvements, until you return to your home city of X."
3.4 If an operator has fail in it's mission inside a city, it's caught, and unless rescued ( see 3.1.17 ), there is a good chance there will be a security breach ( gives away maps with combat units positions, techs, etc. )
3.5 Should the entire intel process by automated? You spend money on intel, and all operations are done automaticly? If so, they are several options:
3.5.1 The computer automaticly build the operators, assign them to missions and proceed.
3.5.2 The computer creates and control the units, but you assign them missions ( also see 3.3 ).
3.5.3 You have no operator units, which requires too much micro-management anyway. You have a "generic" intel screen, which you assign missions and spend money, but you don't use units: you just have basics chance of sucess/fail.
4. Trade
4.1 Single-time trade: this form of trade is a single time exchange of goods between two sides. Every trade process has two sections: "give" and "get". Ofcourse, it's reverse for every other side. To make it clear here, "A" will define what side A gives to side B, or what side B gets from side A, and "B" define what side A wants from side B, or what side B gives to side A. This trade can also apply for gifts and requests, where only one side is filled. You may replace any of the following things in single-time trade:
4.1.1 Land ( a rectangle of land )
4.1.2 Cities
4.1.3 Money
4.1.4 Units
4.1.5 Technology
4.1.6 Resources
4.1.7 Treaty ( sign an alliance with me, and i will give you 50 crdits and steam engine, tech, for example )
4.1.8 Politics ( see 5.8. For example: cancel your alliance with X, and I will give you Y )
4.1.9 Fixed transfer: see 4.2 for extra details. You can create the following suggestion: sign an alliance with me, and i will give you 20 food units for 25 turns.
4.1.10 map information. The entire map, or a certain region. Also, you can get, buy and trade with other nations map ( "I have the Egyptian map" ). The maps don't include tile improvements or military units location.
4.1.11 Info: sell enemy military units deployment, civ status and city information.
4.1.12 Protoype design: sell a design ( see 2.2.4 )
4.1.13 Agreement to peace meeting settelement ( see 9 ). A mediator might ask a single nation, alone, discertly, to support his peace meeting. For example: "I will give you 50 credits and sign alliance with you, if you give me 2 units and support my peace meeting".
4.1.14 General Intel: see section 4.4. You can sell it or trade for some other intel, etc.
4.1.15 Give me your vote: the AI will vote for you in the next pact meeting. Select pact type and voting type.
4.1.16 Give autonomy: give an autonomy to a conquered nation. Applies to an annnixed and confed status ( see 7.1 ).
4.2 Agreements/Contracts/loans: this section describe how to create a fixed agreement. X items will be replaced by Y items every turn, for infinite time ( or a fixed amount of time ). It can also describe tribute. The following things can be exchanged:
4.2.1 Money. This also applies to loans. For example, a loan looks like this: you give me 1000 credit right now, and I give you 20 credits per turn, for 60 turns ( intersts ).
4.2.2 Resources
4.2.3 Technology access: a very intersting suggestion that also relates to the technology thread. You can grant the other side only limited access to the technology, and not full use ( giving it to him ). He would only be able to use the applications of it, and won't allow to research like he has it ( a technology shelf ). Nor would he keep the technology after you stop sharing it with him. For example, if you share gunner powder with him, he could build muskterees, but that will stop once you stop sharing it with him. Also, the effects of gunner powder ( like ending the effects of wonders and buildings ) won't apply on the other side.
4.2.4 Food
4.2.5 Units: give X units every turn. Genralzied amounts. See 4.3 for extra details.
4.2.6 Design access: similar to 4.2.3, only it grants a limited access to a certain unit design.
4.2.7 Vote transfer: automaticly vote for me in any upcoming pact meeting.
4.3 when offering a trade offer, you can also talk in "general" numbers. A general number of units can appear like this:
"Sign an alliance with me, and I will give you some units".
Where units can be generalizied in the following ways:
4.3.1 Some units
4.3.2 Some military units
4.3.3 Some naval units
4.3.4 Some frigate class "B" units
4.3.5 X units ( fixed number )
4.3.6 X mililtary units
4.3.7 X naval units
The other side will then select the number and type of the offer.
4.4 General Intel: Apply only to AI's. General intel is the classified, general information that is kept quiet. Like, who the emeperor is sleeping with, home location, and other such stuff. Intel can be sold to other empires, or used by you to leverage on diplomatic dicussion. By using the intel you can increase your chance the AI will agree to what you say ( see also 5.14 for extra info ).
4.5 Multi-sided trade: a trade can made between several sides, in the same time, via the peace meeting screen.
5. Diplomatic screen
Here are the following options on the diplomatic screen. Check out the trade section ( 4 ), for further details. The diplomacy screen is integrated into the trade screen, or vise versa. For example, you ask for a treaty via the diplomacy screen. If the other side refuse, a trade menu pops up automaticly and you can start neogatioting by using trade menus of "give" and "get" ( see negotation ,6.2 ). Also, most of the diplomatic option can be accessed via the full trade screen.
5.1 Ask for treaty ( if you don't want it via the trade screen. Treaties and diplomatic level ).
5.2 Give gift ( add something to "give" section )
5.3 Ask/Demand/Force something ( add something to "get" section, and choose attitude ).
5.4 Offer trade ( add somethin to the "give" and "get" section ).
5.5. Offer trade agreement ( a contract, see 4. Also applies to loans )
5.6 Declare war / break alliance/unity. If an emperor refuse to talk with you, you still can declare war on him ( the only option opens to you ).
5.7 Complain ( see 8.1 )
5.7.1 You also have complaints that are not atrocity relating. They are available only when it's appriopite: for example, when the other civ army is really bigger then yours, etc. You can complain the following ( see 6.7 for explantion ). When you are complaining, you can choose an attitude ( polite, angry, and threat. A threat is different from angry that if the other side doesn't replay to your threat, you automaticly declare war on him ).
5.7.1.1 Side B is too big.
5.7.1.2 Side B military might is too big.
5.7.1.3 Side B is expanding too quickly
5.7.1.4 Side B is spying too much
5.7.1.5 Side B is trying to get a military edge ( technology )
5.7.1.6 Side B is trace-passing on your land
5.8 Politics: this is a large section. It contains all the options that regards to other players, not just you too. For any request here, it opens a trade screen. You might add something as a gift "sign peace, and i will give you X". The other side might responds in a bigger request ( see 6.2 ).
5.8.1 Offer new member to pact. If you are both members of a pact, you can recommend a new member here.
5.8.2 Expel a member: if you are both members of a pact, here you can recommend the expelation of a certain other member.
5.8.3 Offer new pact: suggest your ally to add you, and form a new pact. See pact section ( 1 ), for limitions and costs.
5.8.4 Ask for peace: ask side B to sign peace with side C.
5.8.5 Declare war: ask side B to declare war on side C ( emergency pact, see 1.3 ).
5.8.6 Ask for Embargo: ask side B to cancel all trade with side C.
5.8.7 Ask to break alliance: ask side B to cancel his alliance/unity with side C.
5.8.8 Ask for side B to complain to side C on something he did to you ( see 8 )
5.8.9 Pass a msg to side C: write a msg that you can pass to side C. Useful if you didn't yet contact side C, he became un-reachable, or refues to talk with you.
5.8.10 Call for a peace meeting ( see 9 ).
5.8.11 Push autonomy subject: ask side B to request from side C that he give's side D autonomy ( if side D is in confed/annixed status, see 7.1 ).
5.8.12 Push membership subject: ask side B to push on side C to except your membership suggestion ( see 7.6 for memebership description ).
5.8.13 Ask to joined protectorate: ask side B to join you in protecorate on side C to increase the chance that it will agreet to breakaway from side D ( see 5.17, 11.4 ).
5.8.14 Push liberation subject: ask side B to assist you in making side C giving side D freedom. Requires side D to be annixed/confed to side C ( see 11.5 ).
5.9 Surrender to ( see 7.1, under player specifications )
5.10 Offer surrender: offer the nation to be spared if she joins you ( see 7.1 for the varios options ).
5.11 Ask to talk with the emperator ( multi-player only ): free chat.
5.12 Cancel any treaty.
5.13 Ignore: you can ignore a player for as long as you want.
5.14 Use Intel: use intel you gained by your spys or by buying it from other empires to gain a diplomatic bonus for the next disucusion when asking for things ( land, tribute, etc. ).
5.15 Offer membership: minor civ only ( or extreamly small major civ ). The nation will become a part of your empire ( see 7.6 ).
5.16 Offer goods support: give food and money to a vassal/autonomy mode nation, to increase the chance they will break away ( see 11.4 ).
5.17 Offer protectorate: promise a vassal/autonomy mode nation, that you will protect her if she will breakaway. If accepted, both event happens: you declare protectorate ( see 11.7 ) on the controlling empire and the autonomous nation breakaway.
5.18 Ask for protectorate: If you are in occuipied mode, you can ask side B to help you breakaway from side C ( see 11.7 for protectorate description ).
5.19 Army limitation: demand that the civ will submit to a certain limitation in it's army type and size.
The commnd will be programmed thus:
* Destroy all/Don't build anymore/Limit to X units total/Limit to X unit per turn ...
* Specific design ( M-1 tanks )/general unit ( tank )/general area ( ground forces )/any unit
* For ever/for X turns/till I say so
5.20 Ask for vote in the upcoming pact meeting ( like the trade screen ).
5.21 Demand liberation: demand side B gives side C freedom. Requires side C to be a confed/annixed nation. ( see 11.5 ).
6. Neogtions and the AI
6.1 A very useful option is the option to "screen-save", either map images or statisics, and send them or show them in your negotions. For example, you might show a player the number of your techs when you are trying to convince him to join a science pact with you, a military formation when you want to scare off an enemy to give you credit, and other very nice things.
6.2 Interaction: this is probaly the most important thing. Diplomatic connections should be a prologed, deep, realistic system of responses. Meaning, that the other side will respond to your request/gift/demand/trade with an answer of he's own, and then you can respond to his, and him to you, until a settlement will be reached. It will make trade negotations much more realistic. For this, the diplomacy screen ( see 5 ) and the trade screen ( see 4 ), are integrated into the same product ( think windows 98 + internt explorer 5 ). Here is a detailed explantion on how this works:
The numbers after the comments shows with sections is the appriopate responses to this responses.
* - present long memory ( see 6.11 ).
** - allows "regret" ( see 6.2.9 ).
A - What side A offer to give side B, or what side B gets from side A.
B - What side A wants/demands from side B, or what side B gives to side A.
It's assumed that negotion starter is side A.
6.2.1. <U>Comments on demand:</u>
"We are more then happy to give it to you". Hand over requested items.
"We will give you want you want, but we won't forget this." -*- Hand over requested items.
"Maybe if you would add this..." Add to "A" (6)
"We can't give you this, but maybe you will approve of this" Change "B" (6)
"Sadly, this is impossible". Cancel demand.(5)
"How dare you! We wish no more connection with you". -**- Cancel all treaties and drop to cease-fire. End demand.(5)
"not only that we will not give you this, but we shell destroy you also!" -**- declare war.
6.2.2 <u>Comments on request:</u>
"We are happy to help our friends." Hand over requested items.
"Sadly, we can't give you what you ask". Cancel request.(7)
"We can't offer you this, but maybe you will like..." Change "B" (8)
"Maybe if you just could..." Add to "A" (8)
6.2.3 <u>Comments to trade-request:</u>
"We gladly accept. A fair deal". commence with trade.
"Maybe if you could just add this..." Add to "A" (8)
"Can't give you this, but phrhaps..." Change "B" (8)
"We have a new agreement in mind..." Reset "A" and "B" (8)
"We are wounded that you can even think about cheating us like this!" -*- Cancel trade offer.(7)
6.2.4 <U>comment on gift:</u>
"We gladly accept your kind gift". Accept gift.
"Sadly, we must refuse". Cancel gift.
6.2.5 <u>Comments on refual of demand:</u>
"You dare refuse us?! This would not be forgotton". -*- cancel demand.
"For this insult, we cancel our relations with your people". -**- Cancel all treaties, end talk.
"What?! You shell die for this insult!" -**- Declare war.
6.2.6 <u>Comments on new-offer after demand:</u>
"We are not here to trade with you! But it's acceptable". Accpet new offer.
"You will also grant us... and then we will spare you". Add to "B" (1)
"We will say this no more! Give us what we want!" Return trade status to original one. Re-demand. (1)
"Very well then. Bit we will watch you." Cancel demand. More hostile.
"You think we wish to bargain with you? You will die!" -**- Declare war.
6.2.7 <u>Comments on refusal of trade/request offer:</u>
"Very well then. Consider our offer invalid." cancel offer.
"What if we also add this..." Add to "A" (2).
"We ask you kindly, and you refused us. This will not be forgotton." -*- cancel offer.
6.2.8 <u>Comments on change of trade/request offer:</u>
"Very well then. Consider our offer invalid." cancel offer.
"Maybe you can also include this" Add to "B" (3)
"We can't give you this, but what about..." Change "A" (3)
"You refused our fair offer? This will not be forgtotton." -*- cancel offer.
6.2.9 ** Regrets: when a certain side says something like ""You think we wish to bargain with you? You will die!", it has ** after it. Meaning, that the other side has an option to regret. For the response after it, and only then, you may respond in "very well then, we will give you what you want". If you choose not to regret, the threat will automaticy take place ( the declaration of war, or cancelation of all treaties ).
6.3 The AI should not have secret information. When negotating, or ask for items, the AI shouldn't know exactly how much money, or what tech you have. He should ask generaly "give me some cash and some technology! ( see 4.3 for generalization ). He shouldn't also keep demanding tribute from you: tone down the amount of demands by the computer.
6.4 The AI needs to think about survival before winning. Therefor, he won't attack you when he has no chance of winning, and defy you for long if you are a lot stronger then him.
6.4.1 Maybe you should have in the beggining of the game the option to choose from a "realistic" computer to a "win" AI. A realistic AI will only attack you when he can afford too, a "win" AI will always think of the win, like the AI from civ II.
6.5 The AI should be influanced by public and world opinion. If a certain player is very unpopular by the world, even if he is his best friend, it could strain on thier own diplomatic relations ( see 7.4 ). Goverement type should also effect the AI approch: democracies should automaticly like each other, and almost never declare war on one another. A democracy should also be hostile to a despotic emeparor.
6.6 It's fun to have civ-specific speech and conversation, like in SMAC. Every civ should have a slightly different speechs, considering the personalty of the leader, nation and gov type. I can just see Nepolean hailing for france: "You think our republic is short! We shell show you who is taller!" Hmm...
6.7 I would like to scream back at the AI! You know what I mean. For example, if an AI blames you for spying ( frame ), you can replay "Bloody hell it's not me! And if you don't belive me, maybe you want to belive this IBCM, eh?". Also, the AI keeps blaming you for "you expand too much", bla bla bla, and even declare war on you. Why can't I do that? I want to tell him he's too expanding to much also!
6.8 The AI should be peace loving too. A peace-keeper civ, like Lal from SMAC, will call for peace meetings herselfs ( see 5.8.10 ), lobby against atrocities, and more. The point is, don't keep just the players in the deep diplomacy: the AI should have intersts also.
6.8.1 This also means the AI will help you, just it would have helped other AI's, in case of an evil attacker. If someone is nuking you ( atrocity ), the other civ should rally to your cause and attack him just as they would have attacked you if you were using nukes. Same thing when the rule of un-fair conduct is done ( see 8.1.2.14, or 1.1.21 ). The AI, and diplomatic pact, should be just as helpful to you if you are fighting a hopeless cause then against you if you were the attacker.
6.9 The AI should evolve over-time, changing it's attribute. For example, a militristic leader incharge of a nation that keeps losing, might turn more peaceful along the time.
6.10 Remebering requests and conflicts: If you asks the AI to declare war on another player, he won't go and sign peace with him just a few turns after you talked. Same thing when he ask you to declare war on a certain other player. He should keep with what he suggest. If you or him sign peace with the other side, it applies to both of you. This is to prevents conditions like this:
Spain declares war on me, I get the Aztecs to help me.
Spain sees the futility of opposing me, but now the Aztecs get annoyed with me when I call for peace and try to get them to do the same.
The next turn, the Aztecs call me up and say "We are at war with the evil Spanish, you must honor our alliance and attack them!"
6.11. If you refused to give the AI something he wants, he might mention it later, or let it change it attitude. For example, when you ask him for 1000 credit, he might say: "X turns ago we asked you for your X tech. If you want your credits, give us what we want".
6.12 The citizens should remember wars for a very long time. For example, if a certain player attacked your land 100 turns ago, and since them you became best friends, when you choose to attack him once more ( or he attacks you ), even after 100 turns, the people becomes very happy. Something like: "the people are happy they can now revenage the old war of X". Big wars will also be assigned names: "The british-russian conflict", "the 30 year war", "the europe conflict", etc. Those names will be used in the peace-meeting window to select the suitable war ( see 9 ).
6.13 The AI should be adjusted to too many tributes, either asked by or from. An AI shouldn't be able to get pushed from tributes all the time from the bully ( that's you, pal ). He should after some time refuse, and lobby for the UN for protection ( see 1.1.21 ). In another hand, the AI shouldn't ask you for tribute every 5 turns or so, even if he is far more powerful then you.
7 Diplomatic realtions
7.1 Surrender effect: when you conquered the entire nation or when you conquered just a part but the rest of the nation is destroyed, you have a decision to make on what to do with the civ ( or the part of the civ you have ). The cities you took over are, in essence, a part of your empire: they posses your color, count on your statistics, and other such matters. On managing them, however, the subject is different. Beside, the AI should also keep thinking about breaking-free ( unless he's a member, see 7.6 ).
Even after a nation converts to a full-fledge city ( for converasion, see 11.6 ), they still might break away in the future. The AI should have a very nationalistic approch, and might even return to the older status even after converasion ( see 11.2 ).
About human players: once a human player is defeated, you have several options on how to treat it's empire. See player info tab in every occuipational option. No converasion for player cities.
This are the possible mode of occuiption:
7.1.1 Vassal: A vassal nation is a mini-region of your empire, that is still controlled by thier own leaders, but is subjected to you.
Tech advances: you gain them all.
Connection: via the diplomacy screen, allways allied to you. Other nations may also commune with them.
Converting: vassal city turns into a normal city after 15 turns * pop amount in the city. 9 turns * pop amount if the controlling empire is a democracy/republic.
Taxs: as normal, plus you can demand tribute via the diplomacy screen.
Military: AI built and controlled, but you can order it via the diplomacy screen.
Cities: AI controled, but you can watch the city window. Wonder effects do not extend to your empire.
Unrest: +30%. Will breakaway and join enemy if you are under attack by a superior force. A vassal can be offered support ( see 11.4 ).
Player: player builds and control it's own cities and units, but earns no taxs, all of it passes to the emeparor ( after maintence cost ). You can't rush-build anything. Controller might ask for military units in tribute. You keep your technology and your wonders don't effect him.
7.1.2 Annix: The entire nations becomes part of your own empire, just like any other city. An occuipational force is needed.
Tech advances: you gain them all.
Connection: a part of your empire.
Converting: annixed city turns into a normal city after 5 turns * pop amount. 4 turns * pop amount if the controlling empire is a democracy/republic.
Taxs: normal.
Military: normal.
Cities: normal.
Unrest: +100%. Will breakaway if no military unit present. Can be liberated ( see 11.5 ).
Player: player is removed from game.
7.1.3 Split: Like annixing, only you can split the civ ( city by city ) between several nations. Good when several allies attacked the enemy toghther.
7.1.4 Autonomy: An autonomous region is virtualy it's an independt civ
Tech advances: you gain none.
Connection: via the diplomacy screen, allways friendly to you. Other empires may commune with them.
Converting: the entire autonomous empire turn your after 20 turns * pop amount in the entire nation. 10 turns * pop amount if the controlling empire is a democracy/republic.
Taxs: as normal. Can't demand tribute.
Military: posses none, requires your protectorate.
Cities: AI controled, but you can watch the city window. Wonder effects do not extend to your empire.
Unrest: +10%. Can be offered support ( see 11.4 ).
Player: Like vassal, only you can't build any military units. However, you can be asked any tribute, and you only give 50% of your taxs.
7.1.5 Confed: The nation becomes a connected ally.
ech advances: you gain all.
Connection: a part of your empire.
Converting: every confed city turn yours after 10 turns * pop amount in the city. 7 turns * pop amount if the controlling empire is a democracy/republic.
Taxs: as normal. Can't demand tribute.
Military: AI builds them, but you control them all.
Cities: AI controled, but you can watch the city window. Wonder effects that are global effect your empire too.
Unrest: +60%. Can be liberated ( see 11.5 ).
Player: player control it's own buildings, but he loses control on all it's military units it builds. All taxs passes to the controller, so you can't rush-build anything. Controller might demand you build unit's for him. Your global wonders also benefit him. You must give and share all tech advances.
7.1.6 Total freedom: The nations returns it complete freedom, and have no connections ( and no taxs ) to the conqueror. However, the citizens will be very fond of your empire, and will ally with you almost instantously.
7.2. Unity: a special, new form of alliance. Unity is a "shared-victory-condition" status. United nations can win togther. They can build a spaceship togthter ( both win ), kill all other players, or try to make one world leader. The unity is however, NOT a union: other nations can't just join. It's not a pact. However, if a third party wants to sign a unity with one part, he must sign unity status will the second part ( also true when you have three, four and even five such players united togther ).
7.2.1 In unity, the following treaties are allready signed: 2.1.1, 2.1.4, 2.2.1, 2.2.2, 2.2.6, 2.3.5. You may sign all the treaties, expect for monopoly ( 2.3.6 ).
7.2.2 Should unity require both nations to have the same goverement type? What about religous and market selections?
7.2.3 All sides in the unity must be atleast with peace with all the friends of the other side.
7.2.4 it was suggested that united wonders treaty will be automaticly signed for every wonder ( see 2.3.2 ).
7.2.5 Every side should contribute to the cause of the union of the two ( or more ) nations. While you are not forced to give the same thing ( for example, even if the union is in war, if you give your share by the value of food, money or technology, and not weapons, it's ok ). However, if a certain side seems to be negelecting it's duties ( not giving a major portion of a certain key reqruirment: food, money, tech, units ), then you may be charged with a fee.
7.2.6 Should unity be limited to only democracies and republics? Personaly, I don't support this.
7.2.7 The maximum number of unity members must be limited. It should not be more then 20% of civs in the game, rounded up. For example, if they are 12 players, not more then 3 may group toghter ( the rest can grouped toghther, but still no more then 3 ). This means that no specific group is bigger then 3, but you CAN have four groups of three, for example.
7.2.8 It's was suggested that any union member can temper, and change, to a certain degree the economy of the rest of the members. Meaning, he can move people around the cities, direct the build quaue, upgrade units, disband old units, and so on. Meaning, help improve the status of his friend empire. Ofcourse, some players may use this power to the worse. I suggest giving the unity members only limited powers.
7.3 Diplomatic levels: in civ II, we had four levels of diplomatic levels: war, truce, peace and alliance. This is clearly not enough, considering how many different levels were proposed over the forums. I try to summarize the similar ones, and show them all here, so, from total peace to total war, here we go:
7.3.1 Unity: see 7.2 for further details.
7.3.2 Alliance: Similar to brotherhood pact in SMAC. You may not attack the other side, and may sign all the treaties with your ally ( including militarial ones ). You automaticly share all map information with your ally, and you can co-ordinate strikes against your enemies.
7.3.2.1 Alliance safe-step: you may not declare war on an ally. You may only "cancel alliance", which drops you to peace status. Only in the next turn can you declare war.
7.3.2.2 Alliance should give you bonus to science and trade output.
7.3.3 Peace: very similar to peace in civ II and SMAC. You may trade with your friend, and sign all the treaties except for militarial ones. Borders are fixed, and may not be moved even by close expansion.
7.3.3.1 Declaring war on your peaceful friend cause great moral damage ( see 7.4 ).
7.3.4 Cease-fire: you may not enter the enemy land, and you may trade with him via the diplomacy screen ( but not create trade treaties ). You can only sign agreement treaties ( see 2.4 ), and create ambassies. You may spy on your enemy, but not have any act of sabotage/terrorize.
7.3.4.1 Should cease-fire cancel after some time?
7.3.4.2 Should borders be fixed, or moving ( just without conquering enemy land? ).
7.3.5 Neutrality/Hostility: A level of no-communcation with the other nations. Borders are not fixed, and may move. You can have low level of espionage, but not any direct assault ( like sabotage ). You can't trade with the other side, but you can sign agreement treaties ( see 2.4 ).
7.3.6 Strike: a level of limited war. You may not take over cities, and none of the negative minus ( or bonuses ) of war applies to your economy. However, the senate and other players will constantly demand you stop the strike.
7.3.7 War: a total war, just like in civ II. However, a prolonged war should effect your economy: gives a bonus to military producation, while hampering civilian infra-structure. The minus to the infrastructutre should effect you several turns even after the war ended. You may not commit any major atrocities however, like nuking.
7.3.7.1 Needless to say, all trade and treaties are cancel when in war.
7.3.7.2 it was suggested to limit the amount of cities you can take over in several turns, for example, up to 3 cities in 10 turns.
7.3.7.3 Should democracies/republics be disallowed to attack other democracies? Or maybe there should be a huge diplomatic relations disadvantge. Maybe the other democracy must commit some atrocity?
7.3.8 Total war/genocide: a much more powerful war. Your bonus to military, and morale, is huge. You can commit and atrocities, and nuke enemy cities. However, it can't be done in democracy/republic, and cause huge diplomatic damage. A diplomatic pact might declare war on you if you declare genocide.
7.4 Public feeling and the senate: All players should have a diplomatic level scale, even the human players. That represent the feeling of the people. For example, if you just had a war with a human player, your level with him will be "hostile". If you will now go and sign an alliance with him, the people would be very angry, and it will cause unhappiness. The senate might even overule you ( "the senate refues to ally with our common enemy". You must sign peace, and wait for the level of connection to rise slowly.
7.4.1 The level of connection also decided the bonus from trade. The closer you are to the other player, the more profit you get. Therefor, if a player becomes more hostile toward you ( lowering the relation scale ), you will get significly less money from trade. Therefor, when you commited atrocities, you can make a lot of player more hostile toward you, and get a lot less money from trade. Ofcourse this doesn't measure the feeling of the human player, but hostlity has effects.
7.5 Improving repution: doing good things improves your repution ( your relation levels with all players, see 7.4 ). Building wonders ( not taking over them ), condemning/attacking villians ( players which commited a lot of atrocities ), acting honorebly ( helping your allies ), donating forces to a diplomatic pact ( see 1.1 ), or helping cities which were hit by random events ( see economics thread for special caravan abilities ). Calling for peace meetings also helps ( see 9 ).
7.6 Memebership: a minor civ, or a major civ that dropped from power ( has one or two cities left ), can be adopted into your empire. The cities becomes an integral sectio of you, without any unrest or any remnenets of the older empire. However, if treated poorly, and repeatedly switching hands, it might re-establish the older empire ( see 11.2 ). However, if that city has poor connection to the old empire ( they revolted againest it ), they might establish a new empire, not returning to the old one.
8. Atrocities and complaints
8.1 Atrocities:
I included a short explanations on your choise that are open to you when you capture an enemy town. It's required in order to understand some of the next atrocities in the list.
* Guard: keep a garrison in the city, and she is considered lost for the other side, but remains the properity of the other side. Can be used in strike mode ( see 7.3.6 ).
* Take over
* Raid: still belongs to the other side, but you gain some money.
* Pillage: taking over, also increase military unit morale ( raping the popultion ), increasing units health ( food ), more money out of the city. Destroys 50% of all buildings in the city.
* Raise: like pillage, only 100% of all buildings are destroyed and sold for money.
* Sack: destroys the entire city, all citizens of the city becomes slaves ( a 1/1/1 unit that moves to the nearest city where it becomes a normal, unhappy worker ).
* Exterminate: only in genocide ( see 7.3.8 ). The entire city is destroyed with no profit. However, all combat units world-wide morale is increased for 3 turns. This is the only option in genocide ( you can't select anything else ).
8.1.1 Events/minor atrocities: those include everything that can cause a small strain to nations. It can cause minor hostlity toward you.
8.1.1.1 taking over a city ( if done without harming the people, then it's not a major atrocity )
8.1.1.2 Spy inside land
8.1.1.3 Espionage ( low level )
8.1.1.4 Framing
8.1.1.5 Breaking cease-fire
8.1.1.6 Polluting ( pollution appears on map )
8.1.1.7 Blocking city exit points
8.1.1.8 Destroying tile improvemnts
8.1.1.9 Create a fortress or city near borders ( pushing them )
8.1.1.10 Use of military units against citizens ( to reduce unrest )
8.1.1.11 An opressive despotic rule ( too many taxs )
8.1.1.12 Steal: money, resource, units, or any other thing.
8.1.1.13 Bribing city.
8.1.14 A significant military build-up.
8.1.2 Medium atrocity: those events may cause great hostility, sancations by pacts, and cancelation of treaties.
8.1.2.1 Owning slaves
8.1.2.2 Raiding a city
8.1.2.3 Espionage ( high level, stealing tech )
8.1.2.4 Terroize ( destroying a building, financing terrorists, etc. )
8.1.2.5 Using forbidden weapons on military units
8.1.2.6 Bombarding city
8.1.2.7 Sieging city ( putting units inside city radii )
8.1.2.8 Destroying a civilian unit
8.1.2.9 Raiding a trade route
8.1.2.10 Breaking peace ( by declaring war )
8.1.2.11 Major pollution: oil leak, nuclear weapon test
8.1.2.12 Brain wash: like SMAC.
8.1.2.13 Occupying another nation city.
8.1.2.14 Attacking a helpless enemy: if one side of a war clearly out-pass his enemy by numbers, size and technology, it's really is a masscare. He should be stopped.
8.1.3 Major atrocity: those atrocities may have you expeled from concuils, make civs break contact and trade with you, and cause major sancations.
8.1.3.1 Sacking a city
8.1.3.2 Pillaging cities
8.1.3.3 Raise city
8.1.3.4 Poison city
8.1.3.5 Using forbidden weapons on civilain units
8.1.3.6 Attacking a diplomat
8.1.3.7 Killing a leader
8.1.3.8 Destroying a trade route
8.1.4 Crimes against humanity: Most likely, most of the nations would declare war on you, unless you have a huge politcal power and support ( like the US bombing Hiroshima ).
8.1.4.1 Nuking a city
8.1.4.2 Exterminate a city
8.1.4.3 Use forbidden weapons on city
8.1.4.4 Declaring genocide
8.1.4.5 Plant a virus
8.2 The effects of commiting atrocities change along the game. In a general sense, in the modern world is much more harsh to atrocities. In old days, everyone saked cities: now it considered a major atrocity. The discovery of modern commucation, world-wide spread democracy and the establishment of the UN wonder, and Geneva convention should all increase the hostile attitude toward a atrocity-doer. It also needs to increase the level of some atrocities into a higher catagorey. Also, the state of the politcal world needs to be considered. If a civ kills an evil despot, which commited a lot of atrocities, it might not be considered a major atrocity ( see 8.1.3.7 ), but might even gain the assinating civ popularty! Also, for example, until a global "no-nuke" charter passes, nuking might be considereds exceptable.
8.3 A very unique and intriguing idea was suggested that the rules of diplomatic conduct should be an evolution in each game. Rules of conduct means defination of atrocities, there level, and other events. For example, if used for a great deal of time by many sides, blocking or sieging cities might be considered normal, while in other games sieging might be considered a major atrocities. Slavery might be accepted in a certain game ( for example, if no democracy existed for a very long time ), while in some other games it could turn the entire world against you. Those rules will be based on the process of each game, and the AI should act accordingly.
8.4 Complaints: Complaints are a new option in the diplomacy screen. You can send a formal complaints upon any atrocity, even a minor one, to the maker. Every complaints reduce your diplomatic relations ( see 7.4 ), which will drasticly cut off his profit from trade. You can also ask a third side to complain also, reducing the level of relations with him too. You can even lobby for a diplomatic pact concuil for a formal compaints, which will make all the pact members more hostile to the evil doer.
8.4.1 Explantion: when you complain, you get a pop-up screen which list all the atrocities the target did in the last ten turns. You can then choose one, or more, and complain. The more serious the atrocity, the more hostile you will become. Complaining on crimes againat humanity ( see 8.1.4 ) automaticly place you at war with that side.
8.4.2 It would be more realistic if you won't be automaticly aware of all the crimes commited by the evil doer. You will need scouts and intelligence rating to know. For example, if side B saked side C city, only side C, and other civ that accidently had units there at the time, will know. However, side C may report this, by selectings "ask X to complain to side Y on..." ( see 5.8.8 ). Then, side X will know also about the crime.
9. Peace meeting
A peace meeting is a three-sided, or more get-toghter of several civ. A peace meeting between two nations alone can simply made via the trade screen ( give me X, and I will sign peace with you. See 4 for further details ).
A peace meeting can be called by a mediator, or by any member of the large-scale war. Any combination of three members or more is acceptable: a mediator with two waring factions, three waring factions or more, or a mediator with more then three factions.
All peace meetings are found in a dedicated window, each applyable to a specific war ( for custom-names, see 6.12 ). A peace meeting, once created, can only terminate by peace or by victory. It will not disappear.
A peace meeting is simply a multi-sided trade agreement. Any of the three sides can give any of the other sides, any of the things that appear on the single-time trade section ( see 4.1 ), or a fixed transfer ( see 4.2 ). However, their is no need to insert the "peace treaty" in. Peace will be signed automaticly by all parties once an agreement is reached.
The peace meeting job is two sided: both to hammer out opposition and seek a solution, and give a good repution bonus to the mediator, if such is found.
10. Minor/Major AI
For one thing, civ III requires more civ: it's more realistic, and show the balance of power more to the point then just 8 super powers. Therefor, it's suggested that beyond the normal amount of major empires, you will have a large amount of smaller empires, which will use a less developed form of AI. The minor AI will not expand beyond a few cities he will build, and only build those when he feel totaly safe. He won't raid or engage in wars, just build a few forces to defend he's own nation.
10.1 Diplomatic relations: you won't be able to sign treaties with them beyond trade via the diplomacy screen ( only one-time trade, not even contracts ). The only levels of relations you can have with them are: war, neutral, peace, and alliance.
10.2 You can't have unity with a minor AI: you can however suggest to him a membership proposel ( or he might ask you for one ). If accepted, the minor AI becomes a total part of your empire ( see 7.6 ), but with no lose of happiness.
10.3 If a major player ( only effects AI ) becomes too weak, then the biggest minor AI grows into power and assume the rule of a major player. Or maybe you should no limitation to the number of major empires: it can only grow, and not stay fixed.
10.4 Minor empires should have connections with other minor empires. Even more, if they have good enough connections they can ally and form a bigger minor empire. if enough minor empires ally this way, they must "over-throw" a major empire and morph into a major empire ( when the former major empire revert to a minor one. See 10.3 ). Only apply to wars with more then three players.
11. Nationality
A nationality is a complicated matter, and it is definded by how the people see themselfs. Nationality is changed in the heart of the people much slower then the city colors, and most of the time it doesn't change at all. It's very hard to pin-point that what nationality is. How they should act, when do they shift, when do they bounce back to the older days. The nationality section is strongly related to the occuipaional screen ( see 7.1 ). Here are the guide-lines:
11.1 Creating a new nationality: A city that has undergone many revolts, or has switched hands many times ( or both ), can suddendly declare themselfs a new nationality. The chance increase the less military units are present near, or inside, the city. This new nationality will create will be totaly new civ ( it's name will be derived from the main city name, like Yorkers for new-york, or something like that ). Half of all the units that were created in the city, and every unit that it's placed in the city switch sides. The civ will have no treaties with anyone and will be slightly hostile to thier previous owners. This can't happen in a capitol.
11.2 Return to the older lores: This concept is very similar to 11.1, however in this case it applies to cities that once have been a part of an older empire and now fully belongs to you ( fully converted ). All units that were created in the city, and those that are present in the city, switch sides. The new civ will have no treaties with anyone and will be very hostile toward thier previous owners.
11.3 Ressuracting an older civ: an old civ can return even after it's been destroyed ( all cities have been sacked/destroyed/exterminate and all units destroyed ). An unhappy city that undergone revolts, and has a slave/imigrant/capture unit that once belonged to that civ can ( depand on the size of the revolt and the amount and morale of old units ), switch sides and recreate the old civ in that city. An old civ can also be recreated via the diplomacy pact window ( see 1.1.22 ). A dead human player civ can't be ressuracted ( see 7.1 ).
11.4 Support and breaking away: vassal and autonomous nations are a part of a certain civ ( in matter of points, color and other such matters ), they still view themselfs and manage thier affairs much to thier own private minds. While they belong to that civ, they still appear on the diplomacy screen can be conversed with. By offering them support, you can increase the chance they will breakaway from their controlling empire. This benefits you both beacause it weakens that empire, and secondly because the autonmous nation becames quite friendly toward you once it's loosen. A protectorate can also be delcared ( see 11.7 ). for support options, see 5.16, 5.17 and 3.1.2.13.
11.5 Liberation: An annixed or confed ( see 7.1 ) nation can be liberated ( but not a human player annix civ ). A liberated nation gets all it's unit it has, all the cities, and a portion of the money of the empire it broke-off from. You can liberate a nation by destroying the occuiping civ originial cities ( beside the controlled ones, that is ) or by capturing all the controlled cities. You then select the option off "liberation". The civ will be very greatful to you.
11.6 Converasion: basicly, any captured nation, whatever the occuipational mode is ( see 7.1 ), will slowly convert to the new civ. Once fully converted, the city will belong to the new civ completly, without more unrest or any other effect. However, they still remember thier old nationality, even forver, and might return to it if under several revolts and extream conditions. See 11.2 for more.
11.7 Procetorate: a protectorate is a militarial enforcement of a vassal or autonmous nation ( see 7.1, 11.4 ) breaking away from the controling empire. Once a protectorate is enforced, the protector is required to place militarial units in the city of the guarded civ. The contolling civ might decide to declare war on both parties ( guardians and protected side ), or let the breakaway take place without conflict.
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A little updated version. Some notions I had, slight error-correcting, and nice things I found over the various forums. It seems like a good idea to refresh the old summary...
* The new nationality sections answers the questions on what to do with splintering nations and conquered ones.
* The peace meeting summarize the various information on this subject from all over the summary.
* Section 6 got a major overhull.
* Added a few options to the diplomacy screen.
* Made section 1 a little easier to understand.
* Added a few names to the honor list.
<u>Index:</u>
1. Pacts
2. Treaties
3. Special operations
4. Trade
5. Diplomatic option/screen
6. Negotations and the AI
7. Diplomatic relations
8. Atrocities and complaints
9. Peace meeting
10. Minor/Major AI
11. Nationality
1. Pacts
A pact is an agreement between three of more players ( AI or humans ) to work toghter under the same ground. The most common pact is a militarial where several players can unite their own forces, but other pacts also exist, a trade, science and diplomatacy pacts.
1.1 Diplomatic pacts are the most basical ones. They serve is a formal meeting house for many civs, but rarely hold any real power. It acts much like the UN, or SMAC concuil. AI have a very good chance of joining a diplomatic pact, more then any other form of pacts.
A player may address a diplomatic pact with the following things:
1.1.1. Expel a member ( only if he commited to a serious atrocity ). Maybe this can be only temporerly?
1.1.2 Suggest a new member.
1.1.3 Suggest a strike ( form of limited war ) or a player which commitied a serious atrocitiy.
1.1.4 Suggest a full scale war, but only on a player which commited genocide.
1.1.5 Signing a global trade treaty ( bonus to trade ).
1.1.6 Electing a pact leader ( like SMAC concuil leader ).
1.1.7 Finanacing a global project ( like in SMAC ).
1.1.8 Ask for embargo on a player ( commited minor/major atrocities ).
1.1.9 Call for an open debate ( chat, when caller set the topic and talks first ).
1.1.10 Sign any of the following treaties: 2.4.1, 2.4.2., 2.4.3, 2.4.4.
1.1.11 A united wonder project for all the members of the pact ( see 2.3.2 ).
1.1.12 Ask to strip a player of Veto power ( see 1.27 ).
1.1.13 Demand a player ( in the pact or outside ) to make peace. This could be further induce with an aultimetum: sign peace in X turns, or we declare war on you.
1.1.14 Ask pact to re-evalute borders: diplomatic pacts can advise on borders, and delcare that one nation must pass X land to the other side. If not, the pact may declare war on the refuser.
1.1.15 Demand cease-fire: the pact can demand a cease-fire between nations, and send force to inforce it.
1.1.16 Establish de-militarilized zone: the pact eract a zone where only her military forces may enter. Any other force may be destroyed.
1.1.17 Give autonomy: the pact may demand a nation which conquered an entire civ to give here autonomy. Applies only to confed and annixed status, not vassal ( see 7.1 ).
1.1.18 Condemn player: if a player has commited atrocities, you can suggest a global complaint against him ( more hostility ).
1.1.19 suggest a global donation to the pact: everyone must donate X units ( see 1.1.105 ).
1.1.20 Call for peace meeting in a big war ( see 9 ). A mediator that calls for a peace meeting get a good repution bonus.
1.1.21 Ask to save a civ which is under un-fair attack ( see 8.1.2.14 )
1.1.22 Ressurect dead civs: the UN charter can assign a city which belongs to some of the members ( he could volunteer maybe, for extra repution ). The city then becomes the first city of a now dead race, like the jewish recreation on Israel. Not applyable to dead human players civ. ( see 11.3 ).
1.1.23 Join protectorate: once a protectorate is delcared ( see 11.7 ), you can ask the entire pact to help enforce it.
1.1.24 Ask for liberation: ask a occuiping civ to give an annixed/confed nation ( see 7.1 ) full liberation.
1.1.100 The diplomatic pact can either be created in reserved to specific members, like in the other pacts, or can be like the UN/SMAC concuil: it's automaticly created and all civ's around the world are joined. If it's a universal pact, then 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 can't exist.
1.1.101 Should the diplomatic pact be resereved to only when you have the UN wonder?
1.1.102 Just joining the pact should gives you a small bonus ( if, unlike 1.1.3, it's a pact with admition and membership ). Maybe +% to diplomatic realtions?
1.1.103 Should it be reserved to only democracies? If true, what happens when a member changes it's goverement type AFTER he joined? Is he automaticly expeled, or it there a vote?
1.1.104 The UN shouldn't be a wonder, or it should be modified, in the following options:
1.1.104.1 Several players reach a certain tech level.
1.1.104.2 A certain player discovers "modern politics".
1.1.104.3 it's available right from the start.
1.1.104.4 No certain nation builds the UN wonder, but several nations toghther.
1.1.104.5 The UN wonder can't be destroyed, and if it can't, it should be able to be rebuilt.
1.1.104.6 The UN should be a wonder, with a large upkeep. If the upkeep isn't payed, the UN is shut-done. Any civ that pays for the UN unkeep ( by donating or by owning it ), has a large repution bonus ( see 7..5 ).
1.1.105 A player can donate forces ( maybe only temporarily? ) to the pact. Those units will be used by the AI to enforce the decisions of the pact. Gives a good repution.
1.1.106 Maybe the UN can automaticly appear after a large-scale global war?
1.2 Military pact is the most used pact there is. It's a union of players for a military might and united protection.
A player may address the concuil with the following things:
1.2.1 Suggest a new member.
1.2.2 Expel a member ( requires only a vote ).
1.2.3 Declare a war ( on a player which is not in thr pact ).
1.2.4 Sign any of the following treaties with any specific member: 2.2.1, 2.2.2, 2.2.2, 2.2.3, 2.2.4, 2.2.5, 2.2.6
1.2.5 All the treaties from 1.2.4 may be signed globely: for example, 2.2.2 means all member share intel, 2.2.3 means all members share some units, etc. 2.2.4 can't be signed globely, but 2.2.5 means all members will pool thier resources to create a single, unified project.
1.2.6 Designate target: when a war was declared by the pact on a single enemy, you may suggest a specific target for the pact to concentrate.
1.2.7 Summon war meeting: similar to 1.1.9
1.2.8 All members in the pact must be allied to one another. If not, joining the pact automaticly allies you with all the others.
1.2.100 Automaticly, all members of a military pact can't attack any other member without breaking the pact. Similar to NATO.
1.3 Emergency pact: emergency pact is similar to a militarial pact. It's created to the sole purpose of destroying a specific enemy. The pact automaticly disolve when the enemy is destroyed, or peace is signed.
1.3.1 the only possible actions you can make in an emergency pact is to call for new members, direct the assault ( see 1.2.6 ), and call for a war meeting ( see 1.2.7 ). The treaties can be signed by the normal diplomacy channel, but not via the pact screen.
1.3.2 If one side of the pact makes peace with the designated enemy, then all sides of the pacts sign peace with him.
1.4 Science pact: Science pacts are a group of nations that share their intellectul knowladge between themselfs.
Players may suggest the following things to the concuil:
1.4.1 Add new member.
1.4.2 Expel a member ( requires only a vote ).
1.4.3 Signing any of the following treaties: 2.1.2, 2.1.3, 2.1.4, when 2.1.3 and 2.1.4 can be suggested as a global effort.
1.4.100 All members automaticly sign 2.1.1 between themselfs.
1.4.101 Beyond the bonus that is recieved via 1.4.100, all members get a +1% per member to thier total research points ( for example, 10 members, not including yourselfs, will give you +10% to your RP output ).
1.4.102 All members in the pact must be in peace with one another.
1.5 Trade pact: or an economic pact, a union of nation for better profit margin.
You may ask the concuil to do the following things:
1.5.1 Add new member.
1.5.2 Expel a member ( requires only a vote ).
1.5.3 Suggest any of the following treaties: 2.3.1, 2.3.3, 2.3.4, 2.3.5, 2.3.7, 2.3.8 to a certain player or offer to the highest bidder.
1.5.4 You may offer to share a global wonder ( see 2.3.2 ) to all the members, or a specific one.
1.5.5 Demand a monopoly ( see 2.3.6 ) from all the members, or a specific one.
1.5.6 Ask for sancations on a specific player ( outside the pact ).
1.5.100 All players must be at peace with one another. All players gets +1% to trade profit for every member in the pact ( not including the player ).
1.6 Questions in pacts.
1.6.1 Should the total number of pacts be limited?
1.6.2 Should a player be restricted to be a leader of no more then one pact?
1.6.3 Should the establishment cost a certain fee?
1.6.4 Should membership in a pact cost a certain fixed fee?
1.6.5 Does leaving the pact cause some damage? Pay the other members some fixed fee?
1.6.6 Is expeling members should be temporily or permenant? In case of diplomatic pacts ( which can only expel a member if he commited atrocities ), should he be able to join after X turns?
1.6.7 Should you have the option to have "secret" pacts? All considering, it can only be seriously used in military combat, as trade and science pacts automaticly recieve too much attention. A "secret" pact won't be informed, or shows in your civ info. But it should cost considerbly more then "normal" pacts.
1.7 Veto power is in the hands of the pact founder, and maybe the biggest nations in the pact, around 10-20% of them. Veto can be cast to over-rule any decisions, but it does cause some hostality toward you from the oppisition. Veto can be re-overruled with a 66% vote in the oppisition. Vote power can be also stripped with a 66% vote.
2. Treaties
2.1 Science treaties: Can be signed via the Science pact ( see 1.4 ), or via the diplomacy screen when the diplomatic realtions are atleast peaceful.
2.1.1. Science treaty: an agreement which gives both sides +% to science output.
2.1.2 Research treaty: Side A pays side B money, and side B in exchange gives all new technology he researched.
2.1.3 Tech treaty: Both sides pool their RP togther and research a specific tech. After it's discovered, the pooling ends.
2.1.4 Mutual research: Both sides share all new technology they accquire by research.
2.2 Militarial treaties : Can be signed via the Military pact ( see 1.2 ), or via the diplomacy screen only when you are allied with the other side.
2.2.1 Intelligence treaty: You may not spy on other side, and you both share all reports on other hostile nations. You can even pool toghter your intel to sabatoge and espionage toghter.
2.2.2 Survlience treaty: shared maps and all known enemy units location.
2.2.3 Defence treaty: both sides position some military units in each other cities for protection.
2.2.4. Design contract: Side A pays Side B to design and build a prototype of a unit. Side B gets 10% of the cost. This tready can only work if:
2.2.4.1.1 You have a unit workshop like SMAC.
2.2.4.1.2 A certain idea in the unit section will be included: that the stats of the prototype units will be better the higher your tech and the more money and time you invest in the development.
2.2.4.2 Side B can't, however, construct the design himself unless side A sells it to him.
2.2.5. United project: Side A and side B both design a prototype toghter ( similar to treaty 2.2.4 ). Both pool resources and the end product is available to both of them.
2.2.6 Lend units: Side A pays side B, and recieve several military units for it's use, for a limited time. Those units can't however, attack the original owner cities or land.
2.2.7. Right of passage: side A may pass and refuel at side B bases.
2.3. Trade treaties : Can be signed via the Trade pact ( see 1.5 ), or via the diplomacy screen when the diplomatic realtions are atleast peaceful.
2.3.1 Construction contract: Side A pays money to Side B, by ordering construction of several units. Side B select a city, which then invest all money to speed-up production of the required units. Side B get 10% of the construction cost. ( Used when you have a good construction ratio in one city, mainly because of a good wonder ).
2.3.2 United wonder: Both sides may construct a wonder. This treaty may only work for wonders that effect society at general ( and not only give tech [ darwin voyage ], a benefit to a certain city or a certain continent ). They pick a city where it's built: but the location doesn't matter since it effect all cities. All cities gives 10% of both nations of there labor to build the wonder. The two nations split the maintance cost. IMPORTANT! Also applies to star ships.
2.3.3 Hired workers: Side A pays side B to gain worker support. Side A select a city, and side B also. Half of all the labor force in side B cities is passed, for the duration of the treaty, to side A city.
2.3.4 Port contract: Side A pays side B to build a harbor/dock at his land for refuel.
2.3.5. Trade passage: Side B allows side A to build trade routes over his land, but he gets 10% of all trade income.
2.3.6 Monopoly: Side A ask side B to only buy a certain item from him ( used in a commodity system, see economics/trade ).
2.3.7. Funded trade: Side A pays side B to build some caravans and establish a trade route with another civ that normally he can't because he has no contact of way to her. Side B gets 10% of the income.
2.3.8 Development area: Side A pays side B for the automated "rent" of some of this settlers. Those settlers then go, and build the job they are hired for: "build a road from here to there", "make farms", etc. Very useful when needs to clean a lot of pollution after a massive nuclear strike.
2.3.8.2 If the public works idea from CtP is added, then side A can "buy" work points from side B for a sum, and use it himself.
2.4. Agreements: Can be signed via the Diplomacy pact ( see 1.1 ), or via the diplomacy screen when the diplomatic realtions are atleast not of war.
2.4.1 Forbiden weapons: Both nations can agree not to use a weapon that is not classified as a nuke or illegal. For example, both nation can agree not to use Catapults, IBCM or tanks. You may also request that only a certain side won't use this tech. ( Example: in startrek, the federation agreed not to used clocking technology of any sort ).
2.4.2 Limited arms: Both sides agree not to use an illegal weapons.
2.4.3 Free air: Both sides agree that be "pollution-safe" after X turns. Meaning, the popultion level must not raise above Y level, or the civ is fined ( forcing the civ to hurry up and build dams, solar panels and recycling systems ).
2.4.4 No-nuke: both sides shell not build any nuclear missiles, subs or power plants.
3. Special operations
Special operations are the product of special units. In civ III, those were the Diplomat and the spy. However, there is a dispute on which operations should go to each unit, and some suggested even new types of special units. Therefor, I divided this section into two: one listing all the possible operations, and the other all the units and suggested things they can do ( with all the disputes ).
3.1.1 Peaceful operations: those operations can be done at any time, with little danger of discovery, or damage if caught.
3.1.1.1 Investigate city: allows the player to see, for one turn, the management of the enemy city. The entire city radii, what building it has, and the popultion distribution.
3.1.1.2 Establish ambsassy ( serves to give you key statistics on enemy civ every turn ).
3.1.1.3 Military status: see the positions of all the units which belog to the city, even those that are outside in the field right now.
3.1.1.4 Steal map: gain the empire map. Without tile improvements or units locations.
3.1.1.5 Get secret intel: see 4.4.
3.1.2 Hidden opeations: those operations can't be done against an ally which you signed an espionage treaty with. It's moderatly dangerous, and may create hostility toward you if you are caught.
3.1.2.1 Sway away unit: pay X amount, and the targeted enemy unit become yours. The expreince level of the operator increase the chance, by high unit morale, exp and proper SE options reduce the chance. Only for Infantry, or other cheap units. If it's a costly unit, its consideres a "war-time operations" ( see 3.1.3 ). Also, it's only applies for manned unit. ( For missiles, see 3.1.3.5 )
3.1.2.2 Steal technolgy. A spy shouldn't be able to steal a technology far above thier current tech tree
status. Even when a technology is stolen, thier should be a delay before you can construct the various improvements obtained from the stolen technology.
3.1.2.3 Steal blue-print: get the design of a certain unit ( if the project idea is used, see units thread ).
3.1.2.4 Steal money: the cost of operations must always be higher then what is gained by the process. The advantge is that it drains the treasure of the enemy.
3.1.2.5 Steal goods: for a certain turn, a certain amount of shields from the enemy city is moved to your nearest city ( or spy home city ), and boost production.
3.1.2.6 Damage unit: reduce unit health by 50%, and cripple it ( can't move for X turns ). The morale level of the unit is also reduced to the lowest level ( not exp, however ). The operator unit is destroyed.
3.1.2.7 Cause revolt: has a low chance the city will revolt. Still cheaper and with higher chance then a succesful bribing.
3.1.2.8 Nuclear deployment: see the positions of all the nukes in the civ, or atleast parts.
3.1.2.9 Rescue operator: if an operator has failed in it's mission, it caught and may be rescued for X turns.
3.1.2.10 Donate to terrorists: create an AI raider spy which will work against the city itself. Reduce the danger from yourself, but it cost a lot and the terrorist is less capale then your own operator.
3.1.2.11 Donate to criminal ( see economics thread for pirates ): you may donate money which goes directly to the pirates AI, which can then harrass the enemy even more.
3.1.2.12 Raid trade route: steal a low amount of money off any trade routes, or caravans, moving near you.
3.1.2.13 Sneak in supplies: only cities that are under vassal or autonomy status can be targeted thus ( see 7.1 ). Increase the chance the AI will support your request to breakaway. Cost food and money. ( see 11.4 for effects ).
3.1.3 War-time operations: those operations can only be done against an enemy with you are atleast in cease-fire with. If caught, it will move you directly to war.
3.1.3.1 Bribe a city: pay X amount, and the city is yours. However, you can't bribe a city which has military units in it, and the more resilent the enemy civ is ( set by her social engineering options ), the bigger the change the operation will fail alltogher. Cost of bribing, and chance of mission acomplishment also depends on the number and quality of the military units in the city, and the morale of the people of the citizens. All around, the morale should effect the cost of bribing more then anything else.
3.1.3.2 Nuke a city: acts just like a nuke hit the city, however with less pollution ( more advance bomb, if it's that small ), and bypassing SDI defence. However, a key observation was made: the cost of nuking a city must be higher then the cost of a normal nuke ( reasonable, isn't it? ).
3.1.3.3 Pollute/Poison water: reduce city popultion.
3.1.3.4 Destroy city building.
3.1.3.5 Steal nuke/missile: allows you to steal any un-maned that are sitting in a city ( like missiles and nukes ).
3.1.3.6 Kill nation leader ( only in capitol city ). Throws the entire nation to revolt, for a turn or two.
3.1.3.7 Destory trade route: destroy a trade route of the enemy, and kill all caravans on it.
3.1.3.8 Plant virus: plant a virus that spreads along the trade routes. Damage is set by the medical level fo the attacked civ.
3.2.1 Some claim that since operators are a single man, or a very small group, it should require no support and cause no unhappiness to the popultion when outside city radii. Ofcourse, this could make spies too powerful.
3.2.2 Spies ( or other, fiting operators ) should have one or more of the following abilities/powers:
3.2.2.1 A good line of sight ( 2 ).
3.2.2.2 Quick movement.
3.2.2.3 Hiding: can only be found by scouts and other spies.
3.2.2.4 Use enemy railraods ( considering that the bug from civ II would dis-allow forgien countries to use your own railroads in normal conditions ).
3.2.2.5 Can board enemy transporters un-noticed ( unless there is a scout on the ship ), and requires 0 cargo capacity on your own carriers ( but only for a single operators ).
3.2.2 The suggested special operators are:
3.2.2.1 Spys: for most of the "hidden operations ( see 3.1.2 ).
3.2.2.2 Diplomat: for embassies and bribing cities.
3.2.2.3 Sabatour: for all the "war-like" operations ( see 3.1.3 ).
3.3 It was suggested that you will give the operators instructions, and not the direct assignment. Meaning? For example, you can tell your spy to: "recon around ( X,Y ) for X turns, then proceed to city X where you will bomb Y, and continue to bomb the following X city improvements, until you return to your home city of X."
3.4 If an operator has fail in it's mission inside a city, it's caught, and unless rescued ( see 3.1.17 ), there is a good chance there will be a security breach ( gives away maps with combat units positions, techs, etc. )
3.5 Should the entire intel process by automated? You spend money on intel, and all operations are done automaticly? If so, they are several options:
3.5.1 The computer automaticly build the operators, assign them to missions and proceed.
3.5.2 The computer creates and control the units, but you assign them missions ( also see 3.3 ).
3.5.3 You have no operator units, which requires too much micro-management anyway. You have a "generic" intel screen, which you assign missions and spend money, but you don't use units: you just have basics chance of sucess/fail.
4. Trade
4.1 Single-time trade: this form of trade is a single time exchange of goods between two sides. Every trade process has two sections: "give" and "get". Ofcourse, it's reverse for every other side. To make it clear here, "A" will define what side A gives to side B, or what side B gets from side A, and "B" define what side A wants from side B, or what side B gives to side A. This trade can also apply for gifts and requests, where only one side is filled. You may replace any of the following things in single-time trade:
4.1.1 Land ( a rectangle of land )
4.1.2 Cities
4.1.3 Money
4.1.4 Units
4.1.5 Technology
4.1.6 Resources
4.1.7 Treaty ( sign an alliance with me, and i will give you 50 crdits and steam engine, tech, for example )
4.1.8 Politics ( see 5.8. For example: cancel your alliance with X, and I will give you Y )
4.1.9 Fixed transfer: see 4.2 for extra details. You can create the following suggestion: sign an alliance with me, and i will give you 20 food units for 25 turns.
4.1.10 map information. The entire map, or a certain region. Also, you can get, buy and trade with other nations map ( "I have the Egyptian map" ). The maps don't include tile improvements or military units location.
4.1.11 Info: sell enemy military units deployment, civ status and city information.
4.1.12 Protoype design: sell a design ( see 2.2.4 )
4.1.13 Agreement to peace meeting settelement ( see 9 ). A mediator might ask a single nation, alone, discertly, to support his peace meeting. For example: "I will give you 50 credits and sign alliance with you, if you give me 2 units and support my peace meeting".
4.1.14 General Intel: see section 4.4. You can sell it or trade for some other intel, etc.
4.1.15 Give me your vote: the AI will vote for you in the next pact meeting. Select pact type and voting type.
4.1.16 Give autonomy: give an autonomy to a conquered nation. Applies to an annnixed and confed status ( see 7.1 ).
4.2 Agreements/Contracts/loans: this section describe how to create a fixed agreement. X items will be replaced by Y items every turn, for infinite time ( or a fixed amount of time ). It can also describe tribute. The following things can be exchanged:
4.2.1 Money. This also applies to loans. For example, a loan looks like this: you give me 1000 credit right now, and I give you 20 credits per turn, for 60 turns ( intersts ).
4.2.2 Resources
4.2.3 Technology access: a very intersting suggestion that also relates to the technology thread. You can grant the other side only limited access to the technology, and not full use ( giving it to him ). He would only be able to use the applications of it, and won't allow to research like he has it ( a technology shelf ). Nor would he keep the technology after you stop sharing it with him. For example, if you share gunner powder with him, he could build muskterees, but that will stop once you stop sharing it with him. Also, the effects of gunner powder ( like ending the effects of wonders and buildings ) won't apply on the other side.
4.2.4 Food
4.2.5 Units: give X units every turn. Genralzied amounts. See 4.3 for extra details.
4.2.6 Design access: similar to 4.2.3, only it grants a limited access to a certain unit design.
4.2.7 Vote transfer: automaticly vote for me in any upcoming pact meeting.
4.3 when offering a trade offer, you can also talk in "general" numbers. A general number of units can appear like this:
"Sign an alliance with me, and I will give you some units".
Where units can be generalizied in the following ways:
4.3.1 Some units
4.3.2 Some military units
4.3.3 Some naval units
4.3.4 Some frigate class "B" units
4.3.5 X units ( fixed number )
4.3.6 X mililtary units
4.3.7 X naval units
The other side will then select the number and type of the offer.
4.4 General Intel: Apply only to AI's. General intel is the classified, general information that is kept quiet. Like, who the emeperor is sleeping with, home location, and other such stuff. Intel can be sold to other empires, or used by you to leverage on diplomatic dicussion. By using the intel you can increase your chance the AI will agree to what you say ( see also 5.14 for extra info ).
4.5 Multi-sided trade: a trade can made between several sides, in the same time, via the peace meeting screen.
5. Diplomatic screen
Here are the following options on the diplomatic screen. Check out the trade section ( 4 ), for further details. The diplomacy screen is integrated into the trade screen, or vise versa. For example, you ask for a treaty via the diplomacy screen. If the other side refuse, a trade menu pops up automaticly and you can start neogatioting by using trade menus of "give" and "get" ( see negotation ,6.2 ). Also, most of the diplomatic option can be accessed via the full trade screen.
5.1 Ask for treaty ( if you don't want it via the trade screen. Treaties and diplomatic level ).
5.2 Give gift ( add something to "give" section )
5.3 Ask/Demand/Force something ( add something to "get" section, and choose attitude ).
5.4 Offer trade ( add somethin to the "give" and "get" section ).
5.5. Offer trade agreement ( a contract, see 4. Also applies to loans )
5.6 Declare war / break alliance/unity. If an emperor refuse to talk with you, you still can declare war on him ( the only option opens to you ).
5.7 Complain ( see 8.1 )
5.7.1 You also have complaints that are not atrocity relating. They are available only when it's appriopite: for example, when the other civ army is really bigger then yours, etc. You can complain the following ( see 6.7 for explantion ). When you are complaining, you can choose an attitude ( polite, angry, and threat. A threat is different from angry that if the other side doesn't replay to your threat, you automaticly declare war on him ).
5.7.1.1 Side B is too big.
5.7.1.2 Side B military might is too big.
5.7.1.3 Side B is expanding too quickly
5.7.1.4 Side B is spying too much
5.7.1.5 Side B is trying to get a military edge ( technology )
5.7.1.6 Side B is trace-passing on your land
5.8 Politics: this is a large section. It contains all the options that regards to other players, not just you too. For any request here, it opens a trade screen. You might add something as a gift "sign peace, and i will give you X". The other side might responds in a bigger request ( see 6.2 ).
5.8.1 Offer new member to pact. If you are both members of a pact, you can recommend a new member here.
5.8.2 Expel a member: if you are both members of a pact, here you can recommend the expelation of a certain other member.
5.8.3 Offer new pact: suggest your ally to add you, and form a new pact. See pact section ( 1 ), for limitions and costs.
5.8.4 Ask for peace: ask side B to sign peace with side C.
5.8.5 Declare war: ask side B to declare war on side C ( emergency pact, see 1.3 ).
5.8.6 Ask for Embargo: ask side B to cancel all trade with side C.
5.8.7 Ask to break alliance: ask side B to cancel his alliance/unity with side C.
5.8.8 Ask for side B to complain to side C on something he did to you ( see 8 )
5.8.9 Pass a msg to side C: write a msg that you can pass to side C. Useful if you didn't yet contact side C, he became un-reachable, or refues to talk with you.
5.8.10 Call for a peace meeting ( see 9 ).
5.8.11 Push autonomy subject: ask side B to request from side C that he give's side D autonomy ( if side D is in confed/annixed status, see 7.1 ).
5.8.12 Push membership subject: ask side B to push on side C to except your membership suggestion ( see 7.6 for memebership description ).
5.8.13 Ask to joined protectorate: ask side B to join you in protecorate on side C to increase the chance that it will agreet to breakaway from side D ( see 5.17, 11.4 ).
5.8.14 Push liberation subject: ask side B to assist you in making side C giving side D freedom. Requires side D to be annixed/confed to side C ( see 11.5 ).
5.9 Surrender to ( see 7.1, under player specifications )
5.10 Offer surrender: offer the nation to be spared if she joins you ( see 7.1 for the varios options ).
5.11 Ask to talk with the emperator ( multi-player only ): free chat.
5.12 Cancel any treaty.
5.13 Ignore: you can ignore a player for as long as you want.
5.14 Use Intel: use intel you gained by your spys or by buying it from other empires to gain a diplomatic bonus for the next disucusion when asking for things ( land, tribute, etc. ).
5.15 Offer membership: minor civ only ( or extreamly small major civ ). The nation will become a part of your empire ( see 7.6 ).
5.16 Offer goods support: give food and money to a vassal/autonomy mode nation, to increase the chance they will break away ( see 11.4 ).
5.17 Offer protectorate: promise a vassal/autonomy mode nation, that you will protect her if she will breakaway. If accepted, both event happens: you declare protectorate ( see 11.7 ) on the controlling empire and the autonomous nation breakaway.
5.18 Ask for protectorate: If you are in occuipied mode, you can ask side B to help you breakaway from side C ( see 11.7 for protectorate description ).
5.19 Army limitation: demand that the civ will submit to a certain limitation in it's army type and size.
The commnd will be programmed thus:
* Destroy all/Don't build anymore/Limit to X units total/Limit to X unit per turn ...
* Specific design ( M-1 tanks )/general unit ( tank )/general area ( ground forces )/any unit
* For ever/for X turns/till I say so
5.20 Ask for vote in the upcoming pact meeting ( like the trade screen ).
5.21 Demand liberation: demand side B gives side C freedom. Requires side C to be a confed/annixed nation. ( see 11.5 ).
6. Neogtions and the AI
6.1 A very useful option is the option to "screen-save", either map images or statisics, and send them or show them in your negotions. For example, you might show a player the number of your techs when you are trying to convince him to join a science pact with you, a military formation when you want to scare off an enemy to give you credit, and other very nice things.
6.2 Interaction: this is probaly the most important thing. Diplomatic connections should be a prologed, deep, realistic system of responses. Meaning, that the other side will respond to your request/gift/demand/trade with an answer of he's own, and then you can respond to his, and him to you, until a settlement will be reached. It will make trade negotations much more realistic. For this, the diplomacy screen ( see 5 ) and the trade screen ( see 4 ), are integrated into the same product ( think windows 98 + internt explorer 5 ). Here is a detailed explantion on how this works:
The numbers after the comments shows with sections is the appriopate responses to this responses.
* - present long memory ( see 6.11 ).
** - allows "regret" ( see 6.2.9 ).
A - What side A offer to give side B, or what side B gets from side A.
B - What side A wants/demands from side B, or what side B gives to side A.
It's assumed that negotion starter is side A.
6.2.1. <U>Comments on demand:</u>
"We are more then happy to give it to you". Hand over requested items.
"We will give you want you want, but we won't forget this." -*- Hand over requested items.
"Maybe if you would add this..." Add to "A" (6)
"We can't give you this, but maybe you will approve of this" Change "B" (6)
"Sadly, this is impossible". Cancel demand.(5)
"How dare you! We wish no more connection with you". -**- Cancel all treaties and drop to cease-fire. End demand.(5)
"not only that we will not give you this, but we shell destroy you also!" -**- declare war.
6.2.2 <u>Comments on request:</u>
"We are happy to help our friends." Hand over requested items.
"Sadly, we can't give you what you ask". Cancel request.(7)
"We can't offer you this, but maybe you will like..." Change "B" (8)
"Maybe if you just could..." Add to "A" (8)
6.2.3 <u>Comments to trade-request:</u>
"We gladly accept. A fair deal". commence with trade.
"Maybe if you could just add this..." Add to "A" (8)
"Can't give you this, but phrhaps..." Change "B" (8)
"We have a new agreement in mind..." Reset "A" and "B" (8)
"We are wounded that you can even think about cheating us like this!" -*- Cancel trade offer.(7)
6.2.4 <U>comment on gift:</u>
"We gladly accept your kind gift". Accept gift.
"Sadly, we must refuse". Cancel gift.
6.2.5 <u>Comments on refual of demand:</u>
"You dare refuse us?! This would not be forgotton". -*- cancel demand.
"For this insult, we cancel our relations with your people". -**- Cancel all treaties, end talk.
"What?! You shell die for this insult!" -**- Declare war.
6.2.6 <u>Comments on new-offer after demand:</u>
"We are not here to trade with you! But it's acceptable". Accpet new offer.
"You will also grant us... and then we will spare you". Add to "B" (1)
"We will say this no more! Give us what we want!" Return trade status to original one. Re-demand. (1)
"Very well then. Bit we will watch you." Cancel demand. More hostile.
"You think we wish to bargain with you? You will die!" -**- Declare war.
6.2.7 <u>Comments on refusal of trade/request offer:</u>
"Very well then. Consider our offer invalid." cancel offer.
"What if we also add this..." Add to "A" (2).
"We ask you kindly, and you refused us. This will not be forgotton." -*- cancel offer.
6.2.8 <u>Comments on change of trade/request offer:</u>
"Very well then. Consider our offer invalid." cancel offer.
"Maybe you can also include this" Add to "B" (3)
"We can't give you this, but what about..." Change "A" (3)
"You refused our fair offer? This will not be forgtotton." -*- cancel offer.
6.2.9 ** Regrets: when a certain side says something like ""You think we wish to bargain with you? You will die!", it has ** after it. Meaning, that the other side has an option to regret. For the response after it, and only then, you may respond in "very well then, we will give you what you want". If you choose not to regret, the threat will automaticy take place ( the declaration of war, or cancelation of all treaties ).
6.3 The AI should not have secret information. When negotating, or ask for items, the AI shouldn't know exactly how much money, or what tech you have. He should ask generaly "give me some cash and some technology! ( see 4.3 for generalization ). He shouldn't also keep demanding tribute from you: tone down the amount of demands by the computer.
6.4 The AI needs to think about survival before winning. Therefor, he won't attack you when he has no chance of winning, and defy you for long if you are a lot stronger then him.
6.4.1 Maybe you should have in the beggining of the game the option to choose from a "realistic" computer to a "win" AI. A realistic AI will only attack you when he can afford too, a "win" AI will always think of the win, like the AI from civ II.
6.5 The AI should be influanced by public and world opinion. If a certain player is very unpopular by the world, even if he is his best friend, it could strain on thier own diplomatic relations ( see 7.4 ). Goverement type should also effect the AI approch: democracies should automaticly like each other, and almost never declare war on one another. A democracy should also be hostile to a despotic emeparor.
6.6 It's fun to have civ-specific speech and conversation, like in SMAC. Every civ should have a slightly different speechs, considering the personalty of the leader, nation and gov type. I can just see Nepolean hailing for france: "You think our republic is short! We shell show you who is taller!" Hmm...
6.7 I would like to scream back at the AI! You know what I mean. For example, if an AI blames you for spying ( frame ), you can replay "Bloody hell it's not me! And if you don't belive me, maybe you want to belive this IBCM, eh?". Also, the AI keeps blaming you for "you expand too much", bla bla bla, and even declare war on you. Why can't I do that? I want to tell him he's too expanding to much also!
6.8 The AI should be peace loving too. A peace-keeper civ, like Lal from SMAC, will call for peace meetings herselfs ( see 5.8.10 ), lobby against atrocities, and more. The point is, don't keep just the players in the deep diplomacy: the AI should have intersts also.
6.8.1 This also means the AI will help you, just it would have helped other AI's, in case of an evil attacker. If someone is nuking you ( atrocity ), the other civ should rally to your cause and attack him just as they would have attacked you if you were using nukes. Same thing when the rule of un-fair conduct is done ( see 8.1.2.14, or 1.1.21 ). The AI, and diplomatic pact, should be just as helpful to you if you are fighting a hopeless cause then against you if you were the attacker.
6.9 The AI should evolve over-time, changing it's attribute. For example, a militristic leader incharge of a nation that keeps losing, might turn more peaceful along the time.
6.10 Remebering requests and conflicts: If you asks the AI to declare war on another player, he won't go and sign peace with him just a few turns after you talked. Same thing when he ask you to declare war on a certain other player. He should keep with what he suggest. If you or him sign peace with the other side, it applies to both of you. This is to prevents conditions like this:
Spain declares war on me, I get the Aztecs to help me.
Spain sees the futility of opposing me, but now the Aztecs get annoyed with me when I call for peace and try to get them to do the same.
The next turn, the Aztecs call me up and say "We are at war with the evil Spanish, you must honor our alliance and attack them!"
6.11. If you refused to give the AI something he wants, he might mention it later, or let it change it attitude. For example, when you ask him for 1000 credit, he might say: "X turns ago we asked you for your X tech. If you want your credits, give us what we want".
6.12 The citizens should remember wars for a very long time. For example, if a certain player attacked your land 100 turns ago, and since them you became best friends, when you choose to attack him once more ( or he attacks you ), even after 100 turns, the people becomes very happy. Something like: "the people are happy they can now revenage the old war of X". Big wars will also be assigned names: "The british-russian conflict", "the 30 year war", "the europe conflict", etc. Those names will be used in the peace-meeting window to select the suitable war ( see 9 ).
6.13 The AI should be adjusted to too many tributes, either asked by or from. An AI shouldn't be able to get pushed from tributes all the time from the bully ( that's you, pal ). He should after some time refuse, and lobby for the UN for protection ( see 1.1.21 ). In another hand, the AI shouldn't ask you for tribute every 5 turns or so, even if he is far more powerful then you.
7 Diplomatic realtions
7.1 Surrender effect: when you conquered the entire nation or when you conquered just a part but the rest of the nation is destroyed, you have a decision to make on what to do with the civ ( or the part of the civ you have ). The cities you took over are, in essence, a part of your empire: they posses your color, count on your statistics, and other such matters. On managing them, however, the subject is different. Beside, the AI should also keep thinking about breaking-free ( unless he's a member, see 7.6 ).
Even after a nation converts to a full-fledge city ( for converasion, see 11.6 ), they still might break away in the future. The AI should have a very nationalistic approch, and might even return to the older status even after converasion ( see 11.2 ).
About human players: once a human player is defeated, you have several options on how to treat it's empire. See player info tab in every occuipational option. No converasion for player cities.
This are the possible mode of occuiption:
7.1.1 Vassal: A vassal nation is a mini-region of your empire, that is still controlled by thier own leaders, but is subjected to you.
Tech advances: you gain them all.
Connection: via the diplomacy screen, allways allied to you. Other nations may also commune with them.
Converting: vassal city turns into a normal city after 15 turns * pop amount in the city. 9 turns * pop amount if the controlling empire is a democracy/republic.
Taxs: as normal, plus you can demand tribute via the diplomacy screen.
Military: AI built and controlled, but you can order it via the diplomacy screen.
Cities: AI controled, but you can watch the city window. Wonder effects do not extend to your empire.
Unrest: +30%. Will breakaway and join enemy if you are under attack by a superior force. A vassal can be offered support ( see 11.4 ).
Player: player builds and control it's own cities and units, but earns no taxs, all of it passes to the emeparor ( after maintence cost ). You can't rush-build anything. Controller might ask for military units in tribute. You keep your technology and your wonders don't effect him.
7.1.2 Annix: The entire nations becomes part of your own empire, just like any other city. An occuipational force is needed.
Tech advances: you gain them all.
Connection: a part of your empire.
Converting: annixed city turns into a normal city after 5 turns * pop amount. 4 turns * pop amount if the controlling empire is a democracy/republic.
Taxs: normal.
Military: normal.
Cities: normal.
Unrest: +100%. Will breakaway if no military unit present. Can be liberated ( see 11.5 ).
Player: player is removed from game.
7.1.3 Split: Like annixing, only you can split the civ ( city by city ) between several nations. Good when several allies attacked the enemy toghther.
7.1.4 Autonomy: An autonomous region is virtualy it's an independt civ
Tech advances: you gain none.
Connection: via the diplomacy screen, allways friendly to you. Other empires may commune with them.
Converting: the entire autonomous empire turn your after 20 turns * pop amount in the entire nation. 10 turns * pop amount if the controlling empire is a democracy/republic.
Taxs: as normal. Can't demand tribute.
Military: posses none, requires your protectorate.
Cities: AI controled, but you can watch the city window. Wonder effects do not extend to your empire.
Unrest: +10%. Can be offered support ( see 11.4 ).
Player: Like vassal, only you can't build any military units. However, you can be asked any tribute, and you only give 50% of your taxs.
7.1.5 Confed: The nation becomes a connected ally.
ech advances: you gain all.
Connection: a part of your empire.
Converting: every confed city turn yours after 10 turns * pop amount in the city. 7 turns * pop amount if the controlling empire is a democracy/republic.
Taxs: as normal. Can't demand tribute.
Military: AI builds them, but you control them all.
Cities: AI controled, but you can watch the city window. Wonder effects that are global effect your empire too.
Unrest: +60%. Can be liberated ( see 11.5 ).
Player: player control it's own buildings, but he loses control on all it's military units it builds. All taxs passes to the controller, so you can't rush-build anything. Controller might demand you build unit's for him. Your global wonders also benefit him. You must give and share all tech advances.
7.1.6 Total freedom: The nations returns it complete freedom, and have no connections ( and no taxs ) to the conqueror. However, the citizens will be very fond of your empire, and will ally with you almost instantously.
7.2. Unity: a special, new form of alliance. Unity is a "shared-victory-condition" status. United nations can win togther. They can build a spaceship togthter ( both win ), kill all other players, or try to make one world leader. The unity is however, NOT a union: other nations can't just join. It's not a pact. However, if a third party wants to sign a unity with one part, he must sign unity status will the second part ( also true when you have three, four and even five such players united togther ).
7.2.1 In unity, the following treaties are allready signed: 2.1.1, 2.1.4, 2.2.1, 2.2.2, 2.2.6, 2.3.5. You may sign all the treaties, expect for monopoly ( 2.3.6 ).
7.2.2 Should unity require both nations to have the same goverement type? What about religous and market selections?
7.2.3 All sides in the unity must be atleast with peace with all the friends of the other side.
7.2.4 it was suggested that united wonders treaty will be automaticly signed for every wonder ( see 2.3.2 ).
7.2.5 Every side should contribute to the cause of the union of the two ( or more ) nations. While you are not forced to give the same thing ( for example, even if the union is in war, if you give your share by the value of food, money or technology, and not weapons, it's ok ). However, if a certain side seems to be negelecting it's duties ( not giving a major portion of a certain key reqruirment: food, money, tech, units ), then you may be charged with a fee.
7.2.6 Should unity be limited to only democracies and republics? Personaly, I don't support this.
7.2.7 The maximum number of unity members must be limited. It should not be more then 20% of civs in the game, rounded up. For example, if they are 12 players, not more then 3 may group toghter ( the rest can grouped toghther, but still no more then 3 ). This means that no specific group is bigger then 3, but you CAN have four groups of three, for example.
7.2.8 It's was suggested that any union member can temper, and change, to a certain degree the economy of the rest of the members. Meaning, he can move people around the cities, direct the build quaue, upgrade units, disband old units, and so on. Meaning, help improve the status of his friend empire. Ofcourse, some players may use this power to the worse. I suggest giving the unity members only limited powers.
7.3 Diplomatic levels: in civ II, we had four levels of diplomatic levels: war, truce, peace and alliance. This is clearly not enough, considering how many different levels were proposed over the forums. I try to summarize the similar ones, and show them all here, so, from total peace to total war, here we go:
7.3.1 Unity: see 7.2 for further details.
7.3.2 Alliance: Similar to brotherhood pact in SMAC. You may not attack the other side, and may sign all the treaties with your ally ( including militarial ones ). You automaticly share all map information with your ally, and you can co-ordinate strikes against your enemies.
7.3.2.1 Alliance safe-step: you may not declare war on an ally. You may only "cancel alliance", which drops you to peace status. Only in the next turn can you declare war.
7.3.2.2 Alliance should give you bonus to science and trade output.
7.3.3 Peace: very similar to peace in civ II and SMAC. You may trade with your friend, and sign all the treaties except for militarial ones. Borders are fixed, and may not be moved even by close expansion.
7.3.3.1 Declaring war on your peaceful friend cause great moral damage ( see 7.4 ).
7.3.4 Cease-fire: you may not enter the enemy land, and you may trade with him via the diplomacy screen ( but not create trade treaties ). You can only sign agreement treaties ( see 2.4 ), and create ambassies. You may spy on your enemy, but not have any act of sabotage/terrorize.
7.3.4.1 Should cease-fire cancel after some time?
7.3.4.2 Should borders be fixed, or moving ( just without conquering enemy land? ).
7.3.5 Neutrality/Hostility: A level of no-communcation with the other nations. Borders are not fixed, and may move. You can have low level of espionage, but not any direct assault ( like sabotage ). You can't trade with the other side, but you can sign agreement treaties ( see 2.4 ).
7.3.6 Strike: a level of limited war. You may not take over cities, and none of the negative minus ( or bonuses ) of war applies to your economy. However, the senate and other players will constantly demand you stop the strike.
7.3.7 War: a total war, just like in civ II. However, a prolonged war should effect your economy: gives a bonus to military producation, while hampering civilian infra-structure. The minus to the infrastructutre should effect you several turns even after the war ended. You may not commit any major atrocities however, like nuking.
7.3.7.1 Needless to say, all trade and treaties are cancel when in war.
7.3.7.2 it was suggested to limit the amount of cities you can take over in several turns, for example, up to 3 cities in 10 turns.
7.3.7.3 Should democracies/republics be disallowed to attack other democracies? Or maybe there should be a huge diplomatic relations disadvantge. Maybe the other democracy must commit some atrocity?
7.3.8 Total war/genocide: a much more powerful war. Your bonus to military, and morale, is huge. You can commit and atrocities, and nuke enemy cities. However, it can't be done in democracy/republic, and cause huge diplomatic damage. A diplomatic pact might declare war on you if you declare genocide.
7.4 Public feeling and the senate: All players should have a diplomatic level scale, even the human players. That represent the feeling of the people. For example, if you just had a war with a human player, your level with him will be "hostile". If you will now go and sign an alliance with him, the people would be very angry, and it will cause unhappiness. The senate might even overule you ( "the senate refues to ally with our common enemy". You must sign peace, and wait for the level of connection to rise slowly.
7.4.1 The level of connection also decided the bonus from trade. The closer you are to the other player, the more profit you get. Therefor, if a player becomes more hostile toward you ( lowering the relation scale ), you will get significly less money from trade. Therefor, when you commited atrocities, you can make a lot of player more hostile toward you, and get a lot less money from trade. Ofcourse this doesn't measure the feeling of the human player, but hostlity has effects.
7.5 Improving repution: doing good things improves your repution ( your relation levels with all players, see 7.4 ). Building wonders ( not taking over them ), condemning/attacking villians ( players which commited a lot of atrocities ), acting honorebly ( helping your allies ), donating forces to a diplomatic pact ( see 1.1 ), or helping cities which were hit by random events ( see economics thread for special caravan abilities ). Calling for peace meetings also helps ( see 9 ).
7.6 Memebership: a minor civ, or a major civ that dropped from power ( has one or two cities left ), can be adopted into your empire. The cities becomes an integral sectio of you, without any unrest or any remnenets of the older empire. However, if treated poorly, and repeatedly switching hands, it might re-establish the older empire ( see 11.2 ). However, if that city has poor connection to the old empire ( they revolted againest it ), they might establish a new empire, not returning to the old one.
8. Atrocities and complaints
8.1 Atrocities:
I included a short explanations on your choise that are open to you when you capture an enemy town. It's required in order to understand some of the next atrocities in the list.
* Guard: keep a garrison in the city, and she is considered lost for the other side, but remains the properity of the other side. Can be used in strike mode ( see 7.3.6 ).
* Take over
* Raid: still belongs to the other side, but you gain some money.
* Pillage: taking over, also increase military unit morale ( raping the popultion ), increasing units health ( food ), more money out of the city. Destroys 50% of all buildings in the city.
* Raise: like pillage, only 100% of all buildings are destroyed and sold for money.
* Sack: destroys the entire city, all citizens of the city becomes slaves ( a 1/1/1 unit that moves to the nearest city where it becomes a normal, unhappy worker ).
* Exterminate: only in genocide ( see 7.3.8 ). The entire city is destroyed with no profit. However, all combat units world-wide morale is increased for 3 turns. This is the only option in genocide ( you can't select anything else ).
8.1.1 Events/minor atrocities: those include everything that can cause a small strain to nations. It can cause minor hostlity toward you.
8.1.1.1 taking over a city ( if done without harming the people, then it's not a major atrocity )
8.1.1.2 Spy inside land
8.1.1.3 Espionage ( low level )
8.1.1.4 Framing
8.1.1.5 Breaking cease-fire
8.1.1.6 Polluting ( pollution appears on map )
8.1.1.7 Blocking city exit points
8.1.1.8 Destroying tile improvemnts
8.1.1.9 Create a fortress or city near borders ( pushing them )
8.1.1.10 Use of military units against citizens ( to reduce unrest )
8.1.1.11 An opressive despotic rule ( too many taxs )
8.1.1.12 Steal: money, resource, units, or any other thing.
8.1.1.13 Bribing city.
8.1.14 A significant military build-up.
8.1.2 Medium atrocity: those events may cause great hostility, sancations by pacts, and cancelation of treaties.
8.1.2.1 Owning slaves
8.1.2.2 Raiding a city
8.1.2.3 Espionage ( high level, stealing tech )
8.1.2.4 Terroize ( destroying a building, financing terrorists, etc. )
8.1.2.5 Using forbidden weapons on military units
8.1.2.6 Bombarding city
8.1.2.7 Sieging city ( putting units inside city radii )
8.1.2.8 Destroying a civilian unit
8.1.2.9 Raiding a trade route
8.1.2.10 Breaking peace ( by declaring war )
8.1.2.11 Major pollution: oil leak, nuclear weapon test
8.1.2.12 Brain wash: like SMAC.
8.1.2.13 Occupying another nation city.
8.1.2.14 Attacking a helpless enemy: if one side of a war clearly out-pass his enemy by numbers, size and technology, it's really is a masscare. He should be stopped.
8.1.3 Major atrocity: those atrocities may have you expeled from concuils, make civs break contact and trade with you, and cause major sancations.
8.1.3.1 Sacking a city
8.1.3.2 Pillaging cities
8.1.3.3 Raise city
8.1.3.4 Poison city
8.1.3.5 Using forbidden weapons on civilain units
8.1.3.6 Attacking a diplomat
8.1.3.7 Killing a leader
8.1.3.8 Destroying a trade route
8.1.4 Crimes against humanity: Most likely, most of the nations would declare war on you, unless you have a huge politcal power and support ( like the US bombing Hiroshima ).
8.1.4.1 Nuking a city
8.1.4.2 Exterminate a city
8.1.4.3 Use forbidden weapons on city
8.1.4.4 Declaring genocide
8.1.4.5 Plant a virus
8.2 The effects of commiting atrocities change along the game. In a general sense, in the modern world is much more harsh to atrocities. In old days, everyone saked cities: now it considered a major atrocity. The discovery of modern commucation, world-wide spread democracy and the establishment of the UN wonder, and Geneva convention should all increase the hostile attitude toward a atrocity-doer. It also needs to increase the level of some atrocities into a higher catagorey. Also, the state of the politcal world needs to be considered. If a civ kills an evil despot, which commited a lot of atrocities, it might not be considered a major atrocity ( see 8.1.3.7 ), but might even gain the assinating civ popularty! Also, for example, until a global "no-nuke" charter passes, nuking might be considereds exceptable.
8.3 A very unique and intriguing idea was suggested that the rules of diplomatic conduct should be an evolution in each game. Rules of conduct means defination of atrocities, there level, and other events. For example, if used for a great deal of time by many sides, blocking or sieging cities might be considered normal, while in other games sieging might be considered a major atrocities. Slavery might be accepted in a certain game ( for example, if no democracy existed for a very long time ), while in some other games it could turn the entire world against you. Those rules will be based on the process of each game, and the AI should act accordingly.
8.4 Complaints: Complaints are a new option in the diplomacy screen. You can send a formal complaints upon any atrocity, even a minor one, to the maker. Every complaints reduce your diplomatic relations ( see 7.4 ), which will drasticly cut off his profit from trade. You can also ask a third side to complain also, reducing the level of relations with him too. You can even lobby for a diplomatic pact concuil for a formal compaints, which will make all the pact members more hostile to the evil doer.
8.4.1 Explantion: when you complain, you get a pop-up screen which list all the atrocities the target did in the last ten turns. You can then choose one, or more, and complain. The more serious the atrocity, the more hostile you will become. Complaining on crimes againat humanity ( see 8.1.4 ) automaticly place you at war with that side.
8.4.2 It would be more realistic if you won't be automaticly aware of all the crimes commited by the evil doer. You will need scouts and intelligence rating to know. For example, if side B saked side C city, only side C, and other civ that accidently had units there at the time, will know. However, side C may report this, by selectings "ask X to complain to side Y on..." ( see 5.8.8 ). Then, side X will know also about the crime.
9. Peace meeting
A peace meeting is a three-sided, or more get-toghter of several civ. A peace meeting between two nations alone can simply made via the trade screen ( give me X, and I will sign peace with you. See 4 for further details ).
A peace meeting can be called by a mediator, or by any member of the large-scale war. Any combination of three members or more is acceptable: a mediator with two waring factions, three waring factions or more, or a mediator with more then three factions.
All peace meetings are found in a dedicated window, each applyable to a specific war ( for custom-names, see 6.12 ). A peace meeting, once created, can only terminate by peace or by victory. It will not disappear.
A peace meeting is simply a multi-sided trade agreement. Any of the three sides can give any of the other sides, any of the things that appear on the single-time trade section ( see 4.1 ), or a fixed transfer ( see 4.2 ). However, their is no need to insert the "peace treaty" in. Peace will be signed automaticly by all parties once an agreement is reached.
The peace meeting job is two sided: both to hammer out opposition and seek a solution, and give a good repution bonus to the mediator, if such is found.
10. Minor/Major AI
For one thing, civ III requires more civ: it's more realistic, and show the balance of power more to the point then just 8 super powers. Therefor, it's suggested that beyond the normal amount of major empires, you will have a large amount of smaller empires, which will use a less developed form of AI. The minor AI will not expand beyond a few cities he will build, and only build those when he feel totaly safe. He won't raid or engage in wars, just build a few forces to defend he's own nation.
10.1 Diplomatic relations: you won't be able to sign treaties with them beyond trade via the diplomacy screen ( only one-time trade, not even contracts ). The only levels of relations you can have with them are: war, neutral, peace, and alliance.
10.2 You can't have unity with a minor AI: you can however suggest to him a membership proposel ( or he might ask you for one ). If accepted, the minor AI becomes a total part of your empire ( see 7.6 ), but with no lose of happiness.
10.3 If a major player ( only effects AI ) becomes too weak, then the biggest minor AI grows into power and assume the rule of a major player. Or maybe you should no limitation to the number of major empires: it can only grow, and not stay fixed.
10.4 Minor empires should have connections with other minor empires. Even more, if they have good enough connections they can ally and form a bigger minor empire. if enough minor empires ally this way, they must "over-throw" a major empire and morph into a major empire ( when the former major empire revert to a minor one. See 10.3 ). Only apply to wars with more then three players.
11. Nationality
A nationality is a complicated matter, and it is definded by how the people see themselfs. Nationality is changed in the heart of the people much slower then the city colors, and most of the time it doesn't change at all. It's very hard to pin-point that what nationality is. How they should act, when do they shift, when do they bounce back to the older days. The nationality section is strongly related to the occuipaional screen ( see 7.1 ). Here are the guide-lines:
11.1 Creating a new nationality: A city that has undergone many revolts, or has switched hands many times ( or both ), can suddendly declare themselfs a new nationality. The chance increase the less military units are present near, or inside, the city. This new nationality will create will be totaly new civ ( it's name will be derived from the main city name, like Yorkers for new-york, or something like that ). Half of all the units that were created in the city, and every unit that it's placed in the city switch sides. The civ will have no treaties with anyone and will be slightly hostile to thier previous owners. This can't happen in a capitol.
11.2 Return to the older lores: This concept is very similar to 11.1, however in this case it applies to cities that once have been a part of an older empire and now fully belongs to you ( fully converted ). All units that were created in the city, and those that are present in the city, switch sides. The new civ will have no treaties with anyone and will be very hostile toward thier previous owners.
11.3 Ressuracting an older civ: an old civ can return even after it's been destroyed ( all cities have been sacked/destroyed/exterminate and all units destroyed ). An unhappy city that undergone revolts, and has a slave/imigrant/capture unit that once belonged to that civ can ( depand on the size of the revolt and the amount and morale of old units ), switch sides and recreate the old civ in that city. An old civ can also be recreated via the diplomacy pact window ( see 1.1.22 ). A dead human player civ can't be ressuracted ( see 7.1 ).
11.4 Support and breaking away: vassal and autonomous nations are a part of a certain civ ( in matter of points, color and other such matters ), they still view themselfs and manage thier affairs much to thier own private minds. While they belong to that civ, they still appear on the diplomacy screen can be conversed with. By offering them support, you can increase the chance they will breakaway from their controlling empire. This benefits you both beacause it weakens that empire, and secondly because the autonmous nation becames quite friendly toward you once it's loosen. A protectorate can also be delcared ( see 11.7 ). for support options, see 5.16, 5.17 and 3.1.2.13.
11.5 Liberation: An annixed or confed ( see 7.1 ) nation can be liberated ( but not a human player annix civ ). A liberated nation gets all it's unit it has, all the cities, and a portion of the money of the empire it broke-off from. You can liberate a nation by destroying the occuiping civ originial cities ( beside the controlled ones, that is ) or by capturing all the controlled cities. You then select the option off "liberation". The civ will be very greatful to you.
11.6 Converasion: basicly, any captured nation, whatever the occuipational mode is ( see 7.1 ), will slowly convert to the new civ. Once fully converted, the city will belong to the new civ completly, without more unrest or any other effect. However, they still remember thier old nationality, even forver, and might return to it if under several revolts and extream conditions. See 11.2 for more.
11.7 Procetorate: a protectorate is a militarial enforcement of a vassal or autonmous nation ( see 7.1, 11.4 ) breaking away from the controling empire. Once a protectorate is enforced, the protector is required to place militarial units in the city of the guarded civ. The contolling civ might decide to declare war on both parties ( guardians and protected side ), or let the breakaway take place without conflict.
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