Raingoon, le'ts bygone be bygone.
Someone probaly allready suggested it, by I will try anyway.
About the "virus" idea Raingoon: it's good, really it is. But isn't it about creating generic religons? Civ is about duplicating alternative histories. We use names of civ that allready existed, and build cities that allready have been built. My point is, all civ is centered about our history, which might or might not go in the same direction of our history.
We don't have technology we havn't discovered, or cities we never have dreamt of building. My point is, as much as we can wish, we need to use real religon in history: that just how civ works.
Now, I agree that using the actual names might be a bit too touchy. But, we should stick with catagorizing real religons: mono-theist or paganism, not "worship" or "evanglist".
However, I agree to disagree that we could never, ever agree on a set of SE modifactors. Who is to say what bonus should Athiesm or Polytheism get? Every person in this room would have diffeent ideas.
So, this is what I suggest: scrap the SE options, but still keep the old catagories and give religon other benefits, not SE.
I mean, like special bonuses.
Polytheism should get +100% extra from temples.
Monotheism should get +100% from churchs.
Atheism should get no hap bonus from temples/churchs, but get a double science bonus from universties.
Religous freedom gets +25% extra from all holy buildings and wonders.
I think that on this reward system we can all agree. We still pick our religon from a menu: or atleast the "declared". I agree that you should have factions and steams: most of your cities would be what you decided, but those who are very unhappy might change thier religon to something else and get the different bonuses. Then, it could spread like the virus idea, and change other civ or yours, what ever you like.
Tell me what you think.
Someone probaly allready suggested it, by I will try anyway.
About the "virus" idea Raingoon: it's good, really it is. But isn't it about creating generic religons? Civ is about duplicating alternative histories. We use names of civ that allready existed, and build cities that allready have been built. My point is, all civ is centered about our history, which might or might not go in the same direction of our history.
We don't have technology we havn't discovered, or cities we never have dreamt of building. My point is, as much as we can wish, we need to use real religon in history: that just how civ works.
Now, I agree that using the actual names might be a bit too touchy. But, we should stick with catagorizing real religons: mono-theist or paganism, not "worship" or "evanglist".
However, I agree to disagree that we could never, ever agree on a set of SE modifactors. Who is to say what bonus should Athiesm or Polytheism get? Every person in this room would have diffeent ideas.
So, this is what I suggest: scrap the SE options, but still keep the old catagories and give religon other benefits, not SE.
I mean, like special bonuses.
Polytheism should get +100% extra from temples.
Monotheism should get +100% from churchs.
Atheism should get no hap bonus from temples/churchs, but get a double science bonus from universties.
Religous freedom gets +25% extra from all holy buildings and wonders.
I think that on this reward system we can all agree. We still pick our religon from a menu: or atleast the "declared". I agree that you should have factions and steams: most of your cities would be what you decided, but those who are very unhappy might change thier religon to something else and get the different bonuses. Then, it could spread like the virus idea, and change other civ or yours, what ever you like.
Tell me what you think.
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