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Here's a question which I feel has gone somewhat unanswered. What do you think is the best type of starting position? If it's not in the poll, reply in the thread.
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72Lots of luxuries27.78%20Fertile land52.78%38Strategic resources11.11%8Defensive land4.17%3Barren and difficult4.17%3People want to know why I do this, why I write such gross stuff. I like to tell them that I have the heart of a small boy... and I keep it in a jar on my desk. - Stephen King -
*sigh* Well let me be the first to say it before everyone else gets in: grassland cows next to a river. Anything less and restart.
Generally though, I think most people look for fertile land (grassland, cows and river) with luxuries in the beginning -- one or two luxuries is all you'll need to REX and destroy.
If you've turned to the darkside, the only strategic resource that might be difficult to get in the beginning is iron, but that is easily rectifyable through war.badams -
SP - barren and lifeless. Even on Deity I find multiple riverside cows rather boring. I will play almost any start, but I prefer the ones that are uncommon, interesting, and offer a challenge. For this reason I like to play 3 billion year-old planets.
MP - just the opposite!
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Lots of luxries for me - different types being optimal!
The reason? I only play Deity these days, so happiness is the BIG factor. Having 2 different types of luxuries mens an early Republic government which keeps the research up - any extra resources can be traded for bonus advances or different luxuries or strategic resources.
Here's my reasoning - strategics are only needed to START building those important military units - luxuries are needed every single turn.
Barren and lifeless? Deity's tough enough without that.Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
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Gimme rivers, cows, and bonus grassland, please. I like nice starts. Given my style of play (or more accurately the goals of my play), I need them.
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Fertile land for quick growth (don't need too good land like 2 cows, just something decent) or definitely luxuries. Luxuries are priceless.A true ally stabs you in the front.
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Ditto, at least when playing on my own. I tend to be more interested in seeing how big I can win than in trying to find games that give me a tough fight. In comparison or competitive games, the start doesn't matter nearly as much because "winning big" is more of a relative concept when I can compare my game with others'.Originally posted by Arrian
Gimme rivers, cows, and bonus grassland, please. I like nice starts. Given my style of play (or more accurately the goals of my play), I need them.
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I would like a fertile land and hills or mountains. Almost always my capitol is the most productive city.Comment
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Well, yeah. It's rather obvious that your capitol is the most productive, since it has the palace in it
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People want to know why I do this, why I write such gross stuff. I like to tell them that I have the heart of a small boy... and I keep it in a jar on my desk. - Stephen KingComment
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I'm willing to take almost anything except tons of jungle.
If I had to pick between lots food and lots of luxuries... I'd go with luxuries. I can always find a good food site... but if don't have a luxury in place by the time my cities start hitting size three...Comment
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I like fertile lands, as anybody (bonus grassland...
) but I like difficult starts once in a while, to get my feet back on earth after a too easy game...
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That's what the luxury slider is for, and the luxury slider is why I'll take food over luxuries any day. Eventually, I'll get some luxuries hooked up, but the luxury slider can keep me growing and productive until then - especially if the starting position is along a river.Originally posted by Fosse
If I had to pick between lots food and lots of luxuries... I'd go with luxuries. I can always find a good food site... but if don't have a luxury in place by the time my cities start hitting size three...Comment
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Yeah but many players just move their palace, I do this rarely so it's my capitol from the beggining to the end.Originally posted by Ephesos
Well, yeah. It's rather obvious that your capitol is the most productive, since it has the palace in it .
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I have to go with the 'fertile land' option, enough to get a few reasonable cities out quickly to get things rolling. Luxuries nice, but as nbarclay says, there is always the luxury slider. Especially in republic, let cities grow and stifle unhappiness with the slider if you have any. Strategic resources? You only need one of the ancient era resources to ensure that you are able to get the other, and even a good archer stack wil be able to grab you strategic resources in a pinch. Never had any troubles here at all (well, apart from my first ever Iriquois game, where the nearest horses were right under Egypts capitol...). Defensive land usually means slow city growth, plus I can't remember the last time that the defensive terrain around my capitol became an issue. Difficult starts? Sometimes I like the challange. I've got a game on the go at the moment as the celts, surrounded by jungle and desert, with about 5 tiles of grassland. Not easy.Comment
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fertile....
being a relative newbie I like my starts as easy as possible.... one day I may even attempt to play a Regent game ;-)Comment
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