My attack plans...

[Tuberski]

I think I could win this situtation on chieftain and maybe warlord, but that's about it.

I would have had a harbor in Yakutsk anyway.

[PrinceBimz]

Usually I can get much larger, two to three times the size nation I have in this game. It was just bad from the start and Russia messed everything up. They kept me away from alot of valuable land. A war against them very early on may have made a difference. Well back to the game...

[Kingof the Apes]

Early wars can determine the difference between win and loss. In my current game, if I hadnt taken out my neighbors with a archer rush my only resources for the entire game would have been horses, alminum, and oil.

If I were you and wanted to continue this game, I'd give up on military victories. Max out production near your best cities, grab as many wonders as possible, set science to max without deficit, and go for spaceship or Culture. If your reputation is good you could try for the UN.

Another tip: don't irrigate grassland. Mine it. Irrigate plains and desert.

[Th0mas]

Originally posted by Tuberski
Just looking at the overall map in the corner, you will be hard pressed to win this game.

....it's really not the winning that counts. This looks an exciting game especially because PrinceBimz is in a hopeless situation.

It's got everything: unexpected battles, flanking manuvers, trade embargo's, an identified "enemy number one" in the form of Russia. and the constant threat that his Civilisation is a very small fish surrounded by large hungry shark-like neighbours.

..cool

....and you never know, he may still win!

[Bella Hella]

oops, thanks for the corrections, guys.

i'm a big proponent of capitol isolation because in my last game, i wreaked absolute havoc on persia by doing this. their smaller cities were down to size 1 after being as high as 12, and their big cities went from 24 to 10 before i took them. i'd never done much pillaging before this, and it was amazingly satisfying to see the mighty fall so far. i hate persia.

how's the game going, princebimz? hopefully you've built another harbor and are doing ok.

[PrinceBimz]

Well it is now 1786AD and here is a current screenshot...



I have really caught up in technology very fast. I managed to build a new city where Russia used to be but most of that land is owned by France right now. I will say France has been a very good ally of mine though. As big as they are its good to know they are on my side with this mutual protection pack. Because of this it keeps the other nations from disrespecting me and going to war against me. If they do they will have my friend France to deal with.

As you can see from the map, China is also history. France had wiped them off the map and I mean quickly. Rome is also fairly good friends of mine, I get alot of my resources from them overseas and the relations with them are much better now. What a resource giant they are.

Babylon and Persia had both formed an alliance against me. So in turn I builted up my naval forces for patrolling around my coasts. Protecting that gulf east of Yakutsk is vital. I don't want any Persian or Babylon vessels in there at all! I managed to send a galleon with troops out to land on Persia's continent in the northeast. They made the landing and done light damage to coastal improvements but the troops were quickly beaten off.

I spent my resources on building some Man-O-Wars and Ironclads. I am planning on sending a fleet of them out to the seas in the Northeast to perform bombardment on the Persian coasts. Hopefully I can destroy enough improvements and chop down the pop levels in coastal cities. Eventually I would like to bring France into fighting Perisa with me. I am getting lots of money now so I may be able to pay them to form an alliance with me against Persia. So this is my current plans for now. Its just a good distance across the ocean to Persia's northeast continent. So it will take me fleets several turns to arrive. Also the construction time on building those vessels can take a little while. So it can be another 10 turns or more before I can even send out the ships.

[PrinceBimz]

Guys this has been one heck of a game! It is now 1940 and so much has happened. I am nearly caught up completely in techs but still behind by a few. I managed to get a total of 3 more cities. I have been at war and peace off and on with many countries since I last posted.

Man did the sea become a war zone! Rome and France were really going at it and they had some large sea battles break out. Their navies were both large, I am talking around 30-40 ships! This is what I seen, I could only imagine the ones I did not know about. That channel just west of me is a watery grave, many ships have been sank there. In fact I just had my first Aircraft Carrier, loaded with 2 fighters and 2 bombers torpedoed under in that channel by a greek submarine. I managed to sink that sub with my destroyer but it was too late. I was only at war with Greece until just now when I saved, both Egypt and Rome declared war on me. I now have 3 large powers to deal with, I sure hope france and germany helps me out here, I think they will. Egypt was the first to get battleships and let me tell you they built many of them. I feared them for a long time and still do.

I will say, my tiny nation may not appear to be much, but it is solid. I am talking strong now, but it was a struggle and I nearly got stomped several times. I survived so far...LOL. But I have factories up in many citys also harbors, airports you name it. I can hold my own against much larger nations. I will hope nothing ever happens between me and France, I am scared to death of them...LOL They have been the coolest so far and has helped me this whole game.

I made a fairly successful invasion on the greek coast across the channel to the west of me. I landed 6 infantry and started pillaging improvements. Then I eventually lost all my infantry, they was bombarding them with ships off coast and finishing them with land units. After this I used bombers to fly across that channel and bomb their improvements. This was extremely effective. Just using the bombers alone I was able to chop down pop levels in their cities left and right.

Enough for now but I can type all night about this game...LOL

[Zero]

looks from ur mao u should get germany and france involved...It's not a good thing that you are weak compared to france and france borders your territory.... slowly overtime, if you dont keep them appeased, they will start thinking about invading you. Get Germany involved for sake of clearing that out of France's mind and keeping their power in check.

and next time you guys both war, send an expedition crew with offensive power capable of taking approximately 2 cities. Then load the stack overwhelmingly with defensive units. Travel with french army and try to conquer the city first whenever you can. If you cant conquer cities urself this is the only viable method I could think of. You should have done this with russians as well. Try to stay at the outskirt of border on the best terrain available and move in for the kill when city is significantly reduced. If you have battle field medicine, you can stay inside enemy teritory. Best would be to camp mountain right next to city, if it exists.
I've also experienced that France for me generally is a really good ally. I guess the commercial factor helps in that I'm always selling something to france and that their cities are quite developed due to industrial trait, Thus many trade interaction occur w/ france in my game.

[Th0mas]

PrinceBimz...Please post up a mini-map...

..sounds like the game is getting better and better

[PrinceBimz]

Here is a screenshot of that channel in 1979...



Yes those are Egypt Battleships and thats not all of them they had. Also if you look good you will see they had stacks in some spaces. The Navy's had become extremely large and powerful in this game. I started production on submarines and aircraft. Fortunate for me I never went to war with them at this time. As you can see from those ships, it could have became extremely ugly on me.

Just so much going on in that channel, it reminds me of the English channel during WW2. It is also strange how all of this started around the 1920's too. Wars continued off and on until like the mid 60's then things slowed down. I was at peace with everyone when the the mid 80's came around. It all remained peaceful all the way to the late 90's. It is now 2008 and I am at war with Egypt from a threat they made to me. I am at peace with all other nations and this war with egypt just started.

My aircraft are bombing ships in the channel and my submarines are finishing off the heavily damaged vessels. I had some battleships but they ended up sunk from sea battles. So I had to get some vessels out asap, so I started production on subs, destroyers and aircraft. They are cheaper than battleships which of course makes them quicker to build. Some naval vessels are better then nothing so I had to scrape up whatever I could get together.

This war with Egypt is about to REALLY get heated so stay tunned...

[PrinceBimz]

Oh guys...guess what? I just found out this ENTIRE game up until now was being played with v1.07f !!! I kid you not, it was the original first released version of CIV3. I formated my hard drive a while back and installed CIV3. I was interupted just after I installed it and had to leave home for a few mintues. During this I forgot to install the patch and never realised it. I quickly figured out I was playing v1.07f today when my fighters on airsuperiority were not intercepting any bombers. I suddenly realized...oh heck...don't tell me I forgot to patch up...LOL. I feel this is a super interesting game going on here, I think it would have been even more so if I would have patched up from the very beginning to 1.29f. I am all patched up now though, so its continuing on...

I also wanted to mention just prior to that screenshot above of the channel, I was at war with both Rome and Greece. They was sending bombers across that channel bombing the living daylights out of me and man was it hurting. Not to mention when war broke out with Rome I was no longer getting ANY resources or luxuries! I could not get oil, rubber, or anything! I managed to get a cease fire, and treaty. Then it calmed down and i was albe to resume my trading. Good thing because as soon as I started trading again, I built a large airforce, another aircraft carrier, several subs and a few destroyers. I also built up a massive division of tanks, infantry and artillery.

I will post another screen up here next with a fully explored world map, that I stole from egypt with a spy

[Zero]

Like I said, Germany seems like a viable target, just from a minmap point of view and ur information of that u get ur mian resource from romans. I'd say to back off romans for while if ur lifeline is dependent on them. try to bring them to ur mpp side. and have france as well fight germany fo you. ty to split the empire amongst you (you might not get exact 1/3 but) then repeat this with other nations until you gain reputable power. If you wanna kill offf everyone in the game, it looks like you and france will have long way to friendship. If playing friendly is your way, Rome and France's friendship should never be discarded, while you pick off less friendly nations and gain power enough to be respected.

[Zero]

I never get much naval unit action... nor did i hear of anyone having so much life in the sea in the game... must be related to how much resource player is engaging in navy that determines how much they use as well to counteract.

[Tiberius]

I never get much naval unit action... nor did i hear of anyone having so much life in the sea in the game

My thoughts exactly. Interesting. It is probably due to that narrow channel that basically separates (almost) all the continents. It is a meeting point for all of the nations involved.

[PrinceBimz]

Calc, I did have thoughts of ganging up on Germany. Thankfully the war with Egypt is now over but I am not sure for how long. The world is currently at peace I just don't think it will stay that way. Especially considering everyone is furious with me.

I will say I did not start building alot of ships but the AI certainly did. They had many ships out there before I really had hardly any. I may have just had like 2 or 3 ships for a very long time in the game. In time I noticed massive naval buildup from the AI. Then I had no choice but to start production on a navy that can protect my seas and shoreline. I think the sea had been a heavy issue here due to the map setup. It was all completely random settings, I put everything on random so I am not sure what the settings are. But if you look at the map it does not really appear to be water heavy, maybe just average. Its just setup with a few oceans.

I guess with egypt, greece and rome being superpowers and fairly large ocean areas seperating them from me, france, and germany makes need for navy. Oh and by the way you should see france's navy, they are nearly the size of egypt's. Rome has a decent size navy too. But germany I can say never really built much of a navy this game though. Don't know why.

At last I am really outnumbered and outpowered in the sea right now. Good thing I have time to build up more navy before war breaks out again. Until next post wish me luck because I need it