A further use for Armies

[Theseus]

I'm in the middle of laying a smackdown on Joanie...

I'm playing an Earth map as China, and actually started in the right place. Having osci-slapped around England, India, and Japan, I have had to extend the war all the way to the Nile, where Paris is. Rather than capture and expand, I just want to eviscerate France, and then extort techs.

Riders are great for this kinda thing, btw.

Anyway, see the pic - those are each 14 hp mixed unit Armies, with 1 vet Musketman and 2 elite Swordsman (all of whom had created a GL). I've got 11-12 elite Riders and 3 vet Cav en route and protected by the Armies, and probably another 10-12 on the way through my territory.

The NE Army is within 3- tile range of Paoting, and the SW Army is within 3-tile range of the non-river face of Paris. The middle Army is just in case... Riders and Cavs can reach between the other two without it, but I didn't want to stretch too thin.

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ps: I don;t seem to make very good screen caps... any tips?

[Catt]

Excellent example. Creating a defensive "road" across which offensive units may move free of fears of being attacked and wounded. Or, taking and controlling territory (even if only temporarily, and only doing so with a mobile force), and using control of said territory to maximum advantage. When the objective is met, shift the "controlled road" to the next target.

Nicely highlighted . . .

[monkspider]

Good post Thesus, I know this is rather off-topic, but what mod are you using to get the cool resource images?

[Theseus]

And a compliment back at you, monkspider.. great avatar!

My resource images are somewhere in the Files sections... I think I saw Uberkrux or Trip using them, and chased it down. I really like the combo, btw.

Can't someone say "nice mixed-unit Armies!!"?

[alexman]

Originally posted by Theseus
Can't someone say "nice mixed-unit Armies!!"?

About that map you're playing, how come the starting position for each civ is not cor...

OK, OK... beautiful mixed armies from the mixed army nut. We have come to expect nothing less from you, Theseus!

I wish I were as fortunate as you with leaders in my current game (CF Tourney 2-2). My militaristic Zulu are trying to win by culture. I was just *dying* to get an early Impi-horseman army, but no such luck.

[Harovan]

The best "mixed unit" AI army I ever saw, was one with 1 Infantry, 1 Cavalry and 1 Swordsman in it, in the late industial age .

The best mixed unit army I ever had, consisted of 2 Horsemen and 1 Impi. The Impi died later (the army was godawful down in hp) and I stuffed a Knight on his place. This army served me well until I got Tanks.

Alexman, this reminds me... oh well, I have abandoned the CF Tournament, for a lack of time .

[DeepO]

As long as you are not mixing longbowmen into a MA-army, I can live with it

No, indeed, a mixed army of used elite swordsmen, with some extra protection from a musketman sounds like a good idea, however when you get the pentagon, I would add another defender to the mix if you want to keep using it as a defender for some time.

DeepO

[Arrian]

Great tactics, Theseus.

The sword/musket combo is good (kinda like having a legionary army).

Amusingly enough, I just finished a game AS Joan of Arc last night. I didn't get a leader until the end was near. I used it, however, to make an army, and rediscover the joys of 13hp of Modern Armor (The 1st Armored Cavalry Division + 2 vets). It slices. It dices. It's the MA Cuisinart! Throw in AI units, any AI units, and *presto* you've got mincemeat! Hurry! Buy now, while supplies last!

-Arrian

[Arrian]

I just noticed something... France is in the industrial age. You're using Riders and Cavalry, right? You better hurry, before you've got riflemen to deal with.

-Arrian

[Jaybe]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph
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The best mixed unit army I ever had, consisted of 2 Horsemen and 1 Impi. The Impi died later (the army was godawful down in hp) and I stuffed a Knight on his place. This army served me well until I got Tanks.
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HOW does one get a single unit in an army to die without the whole army being destroyed???

[Lord Merciless]

I also noticed that the Frenchies are industrialized. In this case, you want to give up your safe approach and converge all three Armies on the assault. Do you know what garrisons Paris has?

[Theseus]

Good eye, Arrian and LM.

Yep, I was waaaayyy behind in tech... I went to 0% research, and bought my way into the new age, then pounded Paris into the ground, ignoring the PAINFUL loss of maybe 12 Riders and Cavs hurling themselves at fortified Riflemen.

Peace peace peace.
Extort extort extort.

All is well with the world... I got so many GLs in this phase that I have an extra saved up.

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Jaybe
HOW does one get a single unit in an army to die without the whole army being destroyed???

If the army is down to 1 hp, the units get killed one after the other. But if one of them wins, the army survives and you can add units again. It was in an earlier version, so I don't know if that was a bug that is already fixed, or not. It happens seldom, though. I saw it only this one time.

Actually I even lied. I looked up my old records. Not only the Impi got killed, but the Impi and one Horseman, and I added 2 Knights.

[Theseus]

I do not believe it works that way anymore.

[Arrian]

Yeah, I've had armies go to 1hp but not die... and all three units survived it (my archer army in the "Game of Ultimate Power" for instance).

Theseus,

What level is that? Emperor? How many GLs would you say you got? What did you use them for?

I started a new GoUP attempt (China/Monarch again), and have been trying to apply some new things I've learned. So far so good, but I spilled water on my keyboard at home and it FREAKED, so I had to cut my playing short last night. Suffice it to say that before firing a shot, I was nearly double the nearest opposition in score. I bought approximately 5-6 workers from the various AIs. That's powerful. Japan is reduced to OCC, and my hordes approach Moscow. No leaders yet - that's the one blemish. 370ish BC.

-Arrian

p.s. The keyboard freakout was actually hilarious, looking back on it. The "4" key just went beserk, so my horseman hordes which were approaching Moscow to my east sudden decided to [Monty Python voice]RUN AWAY!!![/Monty Python Voice].