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  • You blind or do you use your mind?

    I'd just like to know how meny people try to make combined arms operations, like Paras going over a coastline a turn before marines hit the beach! Or bombing the hell out of a civ before even putting troops on their turf?

    In other words, do you go in blindly or do you do things the way they are done in real life?
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    I create combind arms operations just like they are in real life
    57.14%
    16
    I just send in whayever units at the top of the stack!
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    4
    Depends if i have a bad head or not! (Depends if i can be botherd)
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    Help negate the vegiterian movement!
    For every animal you don't eat! I'm gunna eat three!!

  • #2
    I think combined arms are fun to use if I have a tech lead. In a serious game though, pure ground based attack stacks (Knights, Cavalry, Tanks, Modern Armor) are most efficient by far. Once the AI get Mech Infantry there is some need for ground based bombardment, unless you have a lot of armies by then.

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    • #3
      i like doing them all the time,
      And what is your avatar, for some reason it remind me of Ghost in a Shell!
      Help negate the vegiterian movement!
      For every animal you don't eat! I'm gunna eat three!!

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      • #4
        anybody know any other combined arms operations that can do on civ3?
        Help negate the vegiterian movement!
        For every animal you don't eat! I'm gunna eat three!!

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        • #5
          Try 1 carrier, 5 battleships and 2 transports, each transport has 4 marines and 4 tank/panzer/modern armor. Park the carrier between two cities with 1 battleship covering. Send 2 battleships and one transport to each of the two cities. Bombard for 2 turns with the bombers and battleships, then send in the marines to take the cities. Move the transports into the cities and unleash the armored units. You could always add 2 or more nuclear subs and toss a couple of nukes into the mix for some added fun.

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          • #6
            It's just orange tinted gibberish

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            • #7
              If I'm using Cavalry against Infantry, I definitely build some artillery to take with me on the attack. Otherwise, I stay out of conflict at that point and wait for tanks and bombers.

              Then I'll dismantle any artillery I have and use the bombers for bombardment.

              I hardly ever bother using paratroopers.

              My late game combined arms units include:

              - Tanks
              - Bombers
              - Fighters
              - Battleships (if it is at sea)
              - Carriers (again, if at sea)

              And it might be possible that I do use marines for amphibious assault, depending on how much I can soften the enemy forces up.
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              • #8
                What COMBINED ARMS really is:

                Say it is 1700 AD. A stack of musketmen, knights/cavalry, and cannon, should be significantly stronger than an equal number of units of one type.

                You cannot have real Combined Arms unless you have STACK COMBAT, not one individual unit attacking another individual unit one by one.

                Having STACK COMBAT would also make battles less tedious, more realistic, and allow for Realtime tactics.

                Of course I know pigs will fly before Firaxis ever bothers with such an improvement.

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                • #9
                  I always have at least one veteran of my best defender in the stack, even if I have have to send him out ahead (to take the hit and get promoted). And ALWAYS several on Artys...

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                  • #10
                    i like artillery.
                    with them, you can fight wars without many casualties, but you need many of them in order to make them useful.i protect them with some infantry and attack with cavalry.
                    "Cogito Ergo Sum" - Rene Descartes, French Mathematician

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                    • #11
                      Artillery are also great for eliminating roads at borders that you wish to secure and maintain.
                      This method forces the AI to attack you at whichever geographic front you choose not to eliminate the roads, this is especially useful when there are railroads all over. It allows for controlled thrust into enemy territory. Kind of brute, but it works.

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                      • #12
                        If only civ3 had the stacking abilites of ctp.....
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                        • #13
                          i think they made armys for that job, but they don't do to good a job!
                          Help negate the vegiterian movement!
                          For every animal you don't eat! I'm gunna eat three!!

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                          • #14
                            Never really used combined arms...
                            They're coming to take me away, ha ha...

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                            • #15
                              The poll is loaded. My approach of blitzing with fast-movers is NOT one of sending in whatever happens to be on top of the stack, but neither is it combined arms once my fast-movers outrun any possible support from defenders. (Well, maybe hitting infantry with modern armor and spearmen with left-over cavalry could be considered "combined arms" in a very loose sense of the term.) As long as the attackers have a clear technological advantage over the defenders, blitzes are much, much quicker than combined arms attacks. And if the attackers don't have a clear technological advantage, I prefer to defer warfare until they do.

                              Nathan

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