So very cold (of the map generator)

[alva]

hope to more threda like this one. Learned quite alot from it
thanks guys

btw @Barfus: you should have move 1 tile up and settled there, you wasted the wine wine bonus you city is located on only semi serious though

[Barfus]

id dint realize i was building on one (it was the first turn), and i did get some use out of it. the second i built the city a popup appeared saying "road brings wine, etc. people are happy." the other reason i didnt move was because i HATE clearing forest, and as it turns out, this island im on is nothing but......actually worse, its jungle.


keep it up aeson! show the generator whose boss

[JFL_Dragon]

Supurb Effort Aeson

[dawidge]

Absolutely incredible game. Aeson. I've got it saved to get back to, but I'm trying to work through minitourney III.

[Carver]

Barfus, I would have done what you did also and built where you started. On anything other than chieftain you can't waste a turn moving your settler around. I always build exactly where my civ is born.

[Arrian]

I'll disagree with that. I play on Monarch normally, and often move my original settler 1 tile. Not more than that, though.

And while that is a nice spot, Barfus, I would trade it for one with a river, a cow, and a bunch of shielded grassland. But that's me.

-Arrian

[dunk]

I agree with Arrian.

I've taken to saving my game when it starts and making sure my first city is on the coast. I absolutely HATE having cities one tile inland.

BTW, that was one hell of a game Aeson.

[Barfus]

heard that carver.....impossible otherwise.....everyone gets ahead of you

[HazieDaVampire]

well, i've started my 3rd ever game on the second difficulty level, i'm on an island not to much bigger than your and i'm having to struggle away at the AI's citys it has build on the south of my island, plus all of the AI's are annoyed at me!

[vondrack]

Aeson, I bow to your skills. I would never imagine that one can get so far from such a crappy starting location. From now on, I will try every starting position I get just to see if it is doable...

A great thread, learned a lot here!

[Barfus]

yes, aeson....you are awesome.

[Theseus]

We're not worthy, we're not worthy (many smilies).

Aeson, if you're up for it, I'll send you my most untenable position... play it out or comment, if you will.

BTW, you, and some of the other recent games, have inspired me.

I'm going to start a new thread (tomorrow, as it's late), for the Best of the Best.

Aeson is at the front of the line.

[Vlad Antlerkov]

*bows down in worship*

Incredible. Just plain incredible. That was a performance truly worthy of the title of Deity. (Maybe you should PM Ming or MarkG about that. )

So, you have a map of the end of the game?

[ShuShu]

Time for a Corporate...

... Best Practices session...

1) Let me state, that the starting location was impossible. Since Aeson achieved the impossible, whatever he does is a best practice...

In all seriousness, I would have thought this thread silenced one debate once and for all. Aeson essentially explored his entire map before settling. All those who insist that there is not enough time to explore on monarchy, regent or any other level need to reread Aeson's early game description.

2) Just curious. How many people who have read this thread think they could play this map to victory even given Aeson's playbook? (not I)

3) The scary thing is, it doesn't even look like he did anything out of the ordinary. (well other than the 250 modern armor... )

[Aeson]

I had a lot of family over for the past few days, so haven't played much more of the game since the last update. Just a couple of turns.

I signed up England and Germany to MPP's and then attacked Rome. Took all of the central penninsula the first turn. I should be able to keep all the cities as none of them had any Roman Culture. I've been getting a lot of leaders, turning them into armies. Up to 17 armies which really helps. 2 more turns of revolution and then I'll switch to a Monarchy to finish off the game.

As far as wandering around at the start of the game, I only think it's worth it if you can see a really great location within a move or two, or as in this case, there just isn't any food around. Without 2 food sources a city doesn't have much ability to pump out settlers. So moving in that case is almost necessary. It would be interesting to see how long a player could go before building their first city and still end up winning. Barbarians would probably have to be off though.