Which is the Best Government for Modern Warfare ?

[Worthingtons]

in the modern age there is something called Nukes. If you use these democracy isnt an option. Even if you do have Sistine Chappel,J.S Bach's and Cure for Cancer with all the luxuries!!

[Jaybe]

joncnunn, the popularly held conception is that combat LOSSES contribute to WW. That's what makes bombardment and cruise missiles so popular.

[DaveMcW]

Your losses (units and cities) and units in enemy territory (both yours and theirs) contribute to war weariness.

Breaking a peace treaty before 20 turns is up immediately restores WW to the pre-treaty levels.

[Mad Bomber]

with war weariness, remember that the amout of allies and enemies that you have are factors in WW. If you are facing a multiple front war and are all by yourself, you will be facing significantly more WW than if you are leading a coalition to get rid of an 'evil' civ.

Rothy:

I have used nukes as a demo and it doesn't hurt nearly as bad as you would think. Especially if they use the nukes first.

dominae:

you can also disband units to complete improvements in anarchy

[badams52]

Dominae, MadBomber:

But I'd like to see you create an army of tanks or MAs when in anarchy.

[Dominae]

Originally posted by badams52
Dominae, MadBomber:

But I'd like to see you create an army of tanks or MAs when in anarchy.

Given enough Forest and obsolete Stone-age Warriors...anything is possible!


Dominae

[DaveMcW]

Originally posted by Dominae


Given me enough Forest and obsolete Stone-age Warriors...anything is possible!


Dominae

I can see it now... "AU 203: Anarchy Works Best".

Goal: win the game while switching to permanent anarchy as soon as possible!

[Dominae]

Originally posted by DaveMcW
I can see it now... "AU 203: Anarchy Works Best".

Goal: win the game while switching to permanent anarchy as soon as possible!

Say, that's not a bad idea! Anarchy obviously doesn't "work best", but maybe it's possible to win the game on Chieftan or Warlord in Anarchy. Of course, we would have to create a scenario such that Anarchy is the starting government. Hmm...




Dominae

[badams52]

Originally posted by DaveMcW


I can see it now... "AU 203: Anarchy Works Best".

Goal: win the game while switching to permanent anarchy as soon as possible!

I'd have to tip my hat to anyone who could win such a scenario. Even on cheiftain, I think it's darn near impossible. I think conquest or domination would be the only possible victories one could achieve in permanent anarchy

[Mad Bomber]

Originally posted by DaveMcW


I can see it now... "AU 203: Anarchy Works Best".

Goal: win the game while switching to permanent anarchy as soon as possible!

Anyone who can win with this senerio will ascend to godhood in the CIV 3 universe.

Hope you have plenty of forest...

[georges bonbon]

I am going for republic.

And by the way, I always try to keep my GA for the last 150 years of the game. I sometimes refuse less interesting GW for fear of clinching GA.

So when you are technically ahead, go for the Internet and start fighting 20 years before it is build. With GA you can go on fighting for another twenty years without problems.

Try it.

[Mad Bomber]

Originally posted by georges bonbon
I am going for republic.

And by the way, I always try to keep my GA for the last 150 years of the game. I sometimes refuse less interesting GW for fear of clinching GA.

So when you are technically ahead, go for the Internet and start fighting 20 years before it is build. With GA you can go on fighting for another twenty years without problems.

Try it.

No doubt that A late GA is the most productive overall, but I am of the view that any GA is a great GA. An early GA is great for REX. A middle or industrial GA is great for wonder building, and a late GA is great for cash hoarding, and making production sky through the roof. Of course all GA's are good for unit production and warmongering. The only bad GA is the one you do not get. Personally I like to get my GA with the Americans right after I switch to republic, when you get it at this time your overall REX phase doubles in effectiveness at the expense of the other civ's on your continent and its even more effective on a pangea map.

[Zero]

The best warring govt is monarchy or communism.

If you can deal with WW as rep/demo great, but if ur in a serious war, mostly likely WW will be too overwhelming for u.

If its light war, Democracy may be viable
If its a bit heavier Republic may be viable (they seem to hanle WW better IMO.. is this true?)

If its any full fledged war, either crank lux up as either of those govt or pick monarchy or communism. Communism may be a better choice for big civ, even though you cant rush buy.

[Mad Bomber]

Originally posted by Calc II
The best warring govt is monarchy or communism.

If you can deal with WW as rep/demo great, but if ur in a serious war, mostly likely WW will be too overwhelming for u.

If its light war, Democracy may be viable
If its a bit heavier Republic may be viable (they seem to hanle WW better IMO.. is this true?)

If its any full fledged war, either crank lux up as either of those govt or pick monarchy or communism. Communism may be a better choice for big civ, even though you cant rush buy.

I must admit that until recently I have not seen the value of Monarchy but I feel now that Monarchy may be the best warring government.

The difference between the two in my opinion is the cash buy option. Have you ever tried to launch an invasion across the deep blue, get to the continent, take a town, and realize that you can't rush an airport there due to the fact you have to whip the populace?

[DaveMcW]

Originally posted by Mad Bomber

No doubt that A late GA is the most productive overall, but I am of the view that any GA is a great GA.

I disagree, a late GA is the LEAST productive!

A despot GA turns all your 1-shield tiles into 2-shield tiles. Mined shielded grasslands don't get any benefit, so I'll call the average production increase +80%.

A middle age GA gives all your tiles the +1 shield bonus, but by this time you are working hills and forests which already give a lot of shields. So it's more like a +70% production increase.

After railroads the average tile makes 2-3 shields, so +1 more from the GA is not that great. The production increase averages around +40%.