Submarine warfare

[Solomyr]

the idea of sub bombardment doesn't sit well with me, now if you mod the sub so it can load up lots of cruse missles, i can absolutly see that. and then you could also load up tac nukes and well

[Solomyr]

Hah! i just become a Warlord!

strange to say i am a warlord and have little 7-up dots dancing around. perhaps i will make up for this by demanding tribute for my patience

[Anaximander]

Congrats solomyr on the promotion. I think that is reason to celebrate!!!!

Now, back on topic. I have to agree with you 100%. Giving subs bombard capabilitys just dosn't sound right. Subs are not known for their naval guns. However, what if you gave them hidden nationality? It would make the seas a much more dangerous place.

Might be kinda unbalancing though...

[Gen.Dragolen]

Anaximander,

Guess you haven't checked out the latest toys in Jane's. They have had very long range torpedoes and guided missles launched from a sub for over 20 years now.

Remember the Falkland Islands ? The General Belgrano, an Argentine heavy cruiser was sunk by a torpedo from over the horizon. The British sub had been shadowing it and one torpedo sent it to the bottom...

I think a much higher attack value would be more appropriate that a bombardment cap. What I would love to see is a nuclear sub being able to carry cruise missles or ICBM's as the Russian and US subs do already.


D.

ps: Solomyr, Congratulations new Warlord.

[Anaximander]

Actually, I own Jane's latest book on Submarines. Got it for a history paper over WWI U-Boats and ended up reading the damn thing cover to cover. So to answer your question Gen.Dragolen, yes I am familiar with capibilities of long range torpedos and guided missles. However, I still think that giving them bombardment would be a bad idea.

Nuc Subs CAN carry nuc missles. They are just the tactical varity. This fits in very well with reality. What I can't recall is if subs can cary cruise missles. I think they can but I can't remember... I know they did in Civ II because I used them quite a bit.

[Jaybe]

Yes, modern subs carry cruise missiles IRL. Many sub-launched cruise missiles were used against Serbia. (In Civ3, nuclear subs only carry TacNukes).

[Meshelic]

Originally posted by Anaximander
Nuc Subs CAN carry nuc missles. They are just the tactical varity. This fits in very well with reality. What I can't recall is if subs can cary cruise missles. I think they can but I can't remember... I know they did in Civ II because I used them quite a bit.

I don't know about CIV3 (sub's carrying cruise missiles) but I remember the highlights of my CIV2 experience were subs loaded with cruise missiles. There wasn't anything bad about having a ton of subs loaded with a ton of missiles to waste your opponent while your marines and armor sweep in for the kill!