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  • And the winner for "Worst Starting Location" is...

    ...the Romans, for their four-city-wide desert island!

    It was supposed to be a standard continent game, played in Regent. And it was - for all other civilizations, save the pathetic, isolated Romans, who began their miserable lives stuck on an island with no iron, no horses, no anything save the presense of incense and sand.

    I tried to build the Great Lighthouse, in an attempt to escape the Island of Death, but was beaten BY ONE TURN by the Iroquois, far far to the north. Consequently, none of my galleys ever made it past the Great Sea. I was truely alone, with only a soccer ball to keep me company.

    Out of some masochistic urge for punishment, I decided to continue the game into the modern age. I "kept up" with technology, relatively speaking, by turning off all research and buying everything from everyone (whom I met through passing galleons.) By A.D. 1860, the Americans across the Great Sea had built the Hoover Dam, and was fast approaching nuclear capablility, while I, in humble contrast, had just discovered (purchased) the tank. Which was pointless, as I had no saltpeter, nor oil, nor rubber. Only coconuts, which the Professor fashioned into workable Sherman tanks.

    It was, without a doubt, the most worthy candidate for a game Damned by Fate that I have every played. I found it truely amusing.
    Does anyone else have a "Dead Last" story that needs telling, for posterity's sake? (Confession is good for the soul... !)

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    P.S. This was supposed to go in the General Forum. My bad.

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    • #3
      Check out Aesons So very cold (of the map generator)

      Could you post a savegame or picture/map of your island?
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      • #4
        No resources or galley crossings would make for a much worse start than mine! Would the Lighthouse have let you cross?

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        • #5
          No, I can't beat you: also my worse starting point was better than yours!
          But I had some games where I lost initial good "momentum" and then things become a hell on earth: bad series in combat results, large barbarian raids, lack of critical resources (iron) without a chance to trade or conquer some (I was on an island with deep sea all around: no way to make an assault or a simple path of trade). I got three leaders (fighting in defense with elite units, different game turns) only to have them killed the very same turn they appeared. I was so unlucky at one game one night that I was about to consider to take a free day and stay at home the next day, just to avoid any car incident driving to my office!
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          - Admiral Naismith

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          • #6
            see: civ3 democracy game

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            • #7
              I think I may have gotten the worst starting location. I was playing the AI and my starting point in 4000BC was an island so small the figure of the settler totally covered it. There was no other land close enough to move to. My starting point was 1 square totally surrounded by ocean! Top That!

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              • #8
                one time, without culturaly linked starts, i started right smack between the mongols, zulu, aztecs and germans (all of whom were pissed off because i did not give them all my money and maps). i had no iron or horses. that counts a bad start, right?

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                • #9
                  That definitely counts! Did you play out any turns? I did not.

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                  • #10
                    i tried to play it out, but seeing as it was diety, and all of those civs started with 4 archers, and germany had 8 spearmen to... it did not last long. i was able to hold on to 1 city, but the mongols and zulu declaired war every 10 turns, pretty much nomatter what. my last city fell when in the late middle ages

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                    • #11
                      Bravo for holding out so long! Now I think maybe I should have made a go of it!

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                      • #12
                        I once got 4 desert squares on top of each other (don't have a pick sorry) vertically for my starting location, with water surrounding it. I got a galley to another island out of dumb luck... 2 squares of jungle. That was my empire, 3 starving cities.
                        "When I was 18, my father was the dumbest man in the world. He sure learned a lot by the time I was 24."

                        -Mark Twain

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                        • #13
                          The worst start I ever played out was a small continent of only mountain and tundra, with space for only 4 significant cities. I built the UN and missed victory by one vote. Regent, I believe. I also had colossus and hanging gardens. The lighthouse would not have helped.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Louisr2001
                            I think I may have gotten the worst starting location. I was playing the AI and my starting point in 4000BC was an island so small the figure of the settler totally covered it. There was no other land close enough to move to. My starting point was 1 square totally surrounded by ocean! Top That!
                            Top that? Had the same only the 1 square island was tundra. On a Gigantic map with 16 civs and at warlord level. I won't say how it ended but I didn't know whether to laugh or cry at the beginning.
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                            • #15
                              Vince278, I think it is ok to start a new game under those conditions.

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