Just a wondered if anyone knows how this happens. I started a game a game off well getting seven technologies right off the bat by finding barbarian villages and was well ahead of my neighbour the germans in the tech tree. I had my science jacked up the highest I could without losing a whole lot of money but by the time the first hour of the game ended, I was last in technology and the germans were first. How did they get that far ahead of me so fast. There is no way they research that many tech's so quick??
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Originally posted by temacc
Just a wondered if anyone knows how this happens. I started a game a game off well getting seven technologies right off the bat by finding barbarian villages and was well ahead of my neighbour the germans in the tech tree. I had my science jacked up the highest I could without losing a whole lot of money but by the time the first hour of the game ended, I was last in technology and the germans were first. How did they get that far ahead of me so fast. There is no way they research that many tech's so quick??
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That does make sense, but if I try to trade technologies with any other civ they want my best tech as well as my left leg and get pissed if they don't get twice what they asked for. Does this have to do with my military size, city size or culture rating. Some civs want more then others too.
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Originally posted by temacc
That does make sense, but if I try to trade technologies with any other civ they want my best tech as well as my left leg and get pissed if they don't get twice what they asked for. Does this have to do with my military size, city size or culture rating. Some civs want more then others too.
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vmx...
My military is reported as "strong" compared to just about everyone, and I'm still getting poor deals. This is my glacial Babylon game, Monarch level, ongoing war with Persia. Now sometimes the AI civ has nothing to offer, but they almost *never* offer tech, and typically I'll get an offer (for Democracy, say) of a World Map and 4gp/turn. Stinkorino."...your Caravel has killed a Spanish Man-o-War."
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Originally posted by Hermann the Lombard
vmx...
My military is reported as "strong" compared to just about everyone, and I'm still getting poor deals. This is my glacial Babylon game, Monarch level, ongoing war with Persia. Now sometimes the AI civ has nothing to offer, but they almost *never* offer tech, and typically I'll get an offer (for Democracy, say) of a World Map and 4gp/turn. Stinkorino.
It might have something to do with the fact that every so often I just outright give them 25-50 gold as a gift. It might be making them more agreeable towards trading with me. I'm not really sure, but it might be worth a try.
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Originally posted by Willem
One tip, if any of them takes the initiative, don't just accept the offer they're presenting but go for negotiations. If they are the ones starting negotiations, then it means that they want something from you very much, and they might possibly give you the moon instead.
One thing that happened in my current game - Alexander demanded a tech (economics) and in return he said he would not destroy me. I refused, then turned around and offered him my territory map, world map, and some spices. He gave me his world map, twenty gold per turn, and a lump sum of sixty gold. Not a bad deal. I keep him happy for several more turns and he pays me to do it.
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Re: technology
Originally posted by temacc
How did they get that far ahead of me so fast. There is no way they research that many tech's so quick??
You have to trade a lot too. Get them to making payments. Make a beeline for higher level techs and trade or extort the lower level ones you didn't research. Keep them poor. A poor civ can't participate in the trading and falls behind.
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Willem, as it happens I am now doing a monarch, std map as Babs and they offer you junk for stuff, mainly because they are pinched for cash. If they think, you are weak they dis you. Remember that their perspective of value is not the same as yours. The one thing they usually want is luxs. Once they are in a squeeze they will cough up more, say they are getting pressure and are behind the civ that is after them, they pay for a tech that is useful or lead to the one they want. At times when the land is grabbed and you are the only one not giving out maps, they will pay big for it. Since no one is allowed to enter my land and I never give out ROP/MPP they are eager to get a map even a world map. I may offer it to get one to go to war with one of my attackers or for cash.
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