Let me give some of you newbies some advice

[Ballz1998]

how did your military. . .

compare to them in the advisor screen just before they attacked? weaker or even, or stronger?

[HalfLotus]

MonMajor you suck at Civ3. We all do.
How about you try several strategies with each gov. before you write them off. I have played several games into the modern ages using all forms of government. They are all effective in the right situation. Monarchy is a MUST for improved production. Communism and Demo. are great too. Don't fight wars in Republic. If you can, try to forget everything you know about civ2. Then start playing.

[Lord Maxwell]

Re: listen to this

Originally posted by MonarchyMajor
Just woke up! not to long ago

First thing I'd like to get streight bigfree1. You ****ing *****, that pisses me off. I have probably played more agmes then, and not on chieften, maybe you have!!! butr heck you go play with republicanism on regent my friend, well see how much you know.

Just won using republicanism most of the game. Went to democracy later on when corruption became too much to bear.

Science setting was at 50-90% all of the game. (On regent.) Well, it dipped in the beginning to maximize cash when I was unable to push breakthroughs faster than 32 turns.

Empty your inner cities. You need at most two "rings" of defended cities. Put defensive units in your outermost cities. As many as you need. Put bombardment/counter attack units in the second outermost ring, so they can reinforce two different cities depending on where the attack is coming from.

Once you get railroads just keep defensives in the outermost ring, spread all the other units out over your empire so each city gets (atleast) one. They can move anywhere in the blink of an eye anyway.

But I don't find republicanism to be a game winner, it's still just a step on the way to democracy.

2) I don't see how you guys have gotten republicism to work well, if you plan on winning the game, that is. WHY so i say this
a) if your culture or military captures citys, or you have many policed units and wokers. Chances are you will not beable to pay for all this, therefore, your sience rate being at maybe 10-20% and happyness prob 10-20 also(ussualy have to down the road, correct me if I am wrong)

Why do you need happiness? Trade for, beg for, war for luxuries. Add in a market place. Garrison. Put in temples/cathedrals/colosseums. Even on deity you will be easily able to keep a city under size 15 from having unhappy faces.

HERE IS THE KICKER! Romans start moving a load of legions and warroirs(mostly legions) keep in mind (i found this out end of game) romans got about 2 more citys then me. all the sudden there pouring into my terriotory. By the time there attacking I have seen literally maybe military 30-40 units. Yes, they take over me, I never make it to democracy.

The AI really does attack in numbers these days. Which is good. So if you want to run republican you have to keep him from attacking you.

here the things I want to point out(this i my 5 long game I think). How do you make a defensive stand against that??
How do they have more citys, crap lod more workers, crap load more military units and have the money to do this? I am, if I tried to build my own army, to possibly defend, I'd go broke. which is why republic is bad, your gonna go broke if you get into a war. they cut of all your trade etc.

You don't make much more of an defensive stand using despotism, as you just admitted. But it's not that difficult to defend against. Use catapults to bombard. Counter attack against every stack near a city. Never leave a unit in the field.

But if you want to go republic you need to play the diplomatic game well enough to avoid being attacked.

Basically I could say by the set up. sometimes it is good to be in the middle, cause you controll everyones trade. But heck, this was amazing how much military they had! Just wanted to share this with you.

Yes, the AI sacrifices city improvements for military. Which combined with the aggressive and pretty good attack AI makes for a very difficult opponent even under optimal circumstances. So while you build temples and granaries and cathedrals he builds units. And all those units are going to come your way unless you can divert them using diplomacy.

I don't see why this makes republicans in particular weak?

[Grunthex]

Re: listen to this

Originally posted by MonarchyMajor

HERE IS THE KICKER! Romans start moving a load of legions and warroirs(mostly legions) keep in mind (i found this out end of game) romans got about 2 more citys then me. all the sudden there pouring into my terriotory. By the time there attacking I have seen literally maybe military 30-40 units. Yes, they take over me, I never make it to democracy.

How do you defend against that? Buy units. So WHAT if units cost 1 gold each. With the massive trade boost, you can AFFORD them. I can hold my empire consistently at 50% science, 10% happiness, 3-4 units per city, and lining my borders with units and still make money. This doesn't even COUNT my 30+ workers.

[bigfree1]

Re: listen to this

Originally posted by MonarchyMajor
Just woke up! not to long ago

First bit of reality I've heard from you, not to mention it seems to be the way you are at ALL times!

Originally posted by MonarchyMajor
HERE IS THE KICKER! Romans start moving a load of legions and warroirs(mostly legions) keep in mind (i found this out end of game) romans got about 2 more citys then me. all the sudden there pouring into my terriotory. By the time there attacking I have seen literally maybe military 30-40 units. Yes, they take over me, I never make it to democracy.

I actually don't see where you've ever made it out of the third grade (sorry if your still there dude)! Why don't you chalk up some experience, then come back here and rant about how the game isn't playing like YOU think it should; maybe by then you may have grown wiser by a bean or two.

[Skanky Burns]

The Republic and Democracy governments are cash-cows. Just keep milking them for money, and you will have plenty spare to spend on research, giving you a technical edge.

You will be concentrating on happiness and cultural improvements, but that doesnt mean you should ignore your military. Build (or even better, buy) military units, and other nations will not attack you, for fear of retaliation. You will easily be able to afford this.

Finally, if another nation feels the need to wage war, use your superior culture, high technology and excess cash to your advantage. Get every other nation to declare war on your enemy, then sit back and watch as their empire is carved apart, all without you lifting a military finger. Or take small blitz-style charges, capture a single city or two and let them beg you for peace before war weariness even begins to affect your citizens.

The important thing to remember, though, is that different gov types are good at certain things, while lacking in other regards. You dont complain when a hammer fails to cut through wood, so why complain when republic fails to conduct long wars??

[mcaber]

Umm, MonarchyMajor, I´m playing regent level right now and am running a republic for maybe 30 turns.
It actually goes quite well, and I´m hoping to win by culture (20,000 cp in my capital) sometime.
Something tells me you wage a *lot* of war. Then republic just isn´t for you. You need to broaden your horizon, then maybe you´ll see things you haven´t seen yet.
Oh, and don´t be so mad, it´s just a game...

[kmj]

Re: Sigh...newbees.

Originally posted by KhanMan
Just like in Civ2 and Civ1, Republics and Democracies require a certain amount of skill to run.

First, set your luxury rate to 30-40%.

yikes! this is civ3 man! use those luxury resources! I've never had to raise my luxury rate beyond 10% (it's almost always at 0%) to keep my cities in celebration. Maybe I just got lucky and found alot of luxuries.

[Raion]

I guantee you that you can not win unless you use 'Republic' or 'Democracy'. Not to me. The science research is better, you just have to pay for the army, air force, marines, navy. You have to keep your people happy also. And that is not that hard to do!!

[Raion]

I guantee you that you can not win unless you use 'Republic' or 'Democracy'. Not to me. The science research is better, you just have to pay for the army, air force, marines, navy. You have to keep your people happy also. And that is not that hard to do!!