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  • #46
    Originally posted by Arrian


    Funny. I've played the Romans quite a bit lately, and that hasn't been my experience. The AI seems too scared to actually attack my Legionaries in the ancient era, so their extra defense doesn't mean all that much there.
    No, I believe it's because the AI is too scared to attack ARRIAN.

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      • #48
        /me catching up, as usual...

        And I had the same reaction as skywalker... all fear Caesar Arrianus!!

        My picks:

        Immortal - I've said it forever, 4 attack at IW is just ridiculous.

        Samurai - 4 defense in a Knight-level unit, jeezy chreezy... and they are hands down the coolest.

        Riders - It's not mentioned much, but 3 tile movement, aside from coming soooo early, has interesting positive effects on the Rider's longevity. 1) Keeping elites once you've started upgrading to Cavs is very very easy to manage, and 2) mixed unit Armies can keep up with the main force... I will NOT add Tanks to these, reserving them for the advent of Modern Armor.

        I haven't played with them enough, but I suspect Sipahi and Conquistadors will also become favorites.

        All of the above said, however, I'll reiterate a position I've long held. This partially relates to the comments on "Lazy War" from way back when, as my own version of Arrian's "break things slowly and carefully."

        My favorite unit?

        The most overpowering in the game?

        The best bang for the buck? (not just in unit cost but in long-term utility)

        The plain old Swordsman.

        Much more so (for me) than the Riflemen or Infantry, the Swordsman represent the ground pounders, the dog soldier, the grunt... unlike most of the rest of the game, these guys take the ground, and pretty much hold it.

        Give me Swordsmen (and an FP ), and I'll take the world.
        The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.

        Duas uncias in puncta mortalis est.

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        • #49
          Best UU : Rider
          Best normal Unit : cavalry

          Does it show my tactic is based on that third movement point
          In fact I hardly play the chinese for this very reason in that I think it's almost too strong.
          Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
          Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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          • #50
            Samurai
            Brazilian Civilization Avaiable Here By Civ3 Brasil

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            • #51
              Am I alone in saying Gallic Swordsman? Sure, it's an expensive upgrade, but 3-2-2 at Iron Working is brutal.

              The best normal unit is the Infantry. What else can lock down most conventional warfare for an entire age?

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              • #52
                The GS is a badass little mofo, that's for sure. But its increased cost + GA timing + poor upgrade path lower its appeal (to me).

                -Arrian
                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                • #53
                  The GS joins a large list of other UUs that I don't necessarily care for that much but hate being up against.
                  You can't fight in here! This is the WAR room!

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                  • #54
                    Since I tend to pick a civ and play that for a looong time, I think I have only played the French, Persians, and Babylonians. Based on that, the Immortals are clearly superior.

                    I guess I like it more than the others because it adds offensive capablity to an offensive unit. The French Musketeer adds offensive capability to a defensive unit and the Babylonian Bowman adds defense to an offensive unit. I just don't find dual role units as valuable.
                    "Slander, lies, character assassination--these things are a threat to every single citizen everywhere in this country. And when even one American--who has done nothing wrong--is forced by fear to shut his mind and close his mouth, then all Americans are in peril" - Harry S. Truman, Address at the Dedication of the New Washington Headquarters of the American Legion, August 14, 1951

                    "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

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                    • #55
                      Stonewall,

                      I suggest you try Egypt, Japan and China for a bit

                      Fastmovers rock.

                      -Arrian
                      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                      • #56
                        Arrian,

                        Yea, I think my current game is going to be my last as Babylonians. Actually, Egypt caught my attention from another thead I was reading....Religious & Industrious. Sounds good to me.
                        "Slander, lies, character assassination--these things are a threat to every single citizen everywhere in this country. And when even one American--who has done nothing wrong--is forced by fear to shut his mind and close his mouth, then all Americans are in peril" - Harry S. Truman, Address at the Dedication of the New Washington Headquarters of the American Legion, August 14, 1951

                        "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

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                        • #57
                          Freakin' awesome trait combo. And once you get the hang of using it, a surprisingly powerful UU.

                          -Arrian
                          grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                          The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                          • #58
                            That is why I played Babylonians - Religous and Scientific, what better combo for a culture hound like me
                            "Slander, lies, character assassination--these things are a threat to every single citizen everywhere in this country. And when even one American--who has done nothing wrong--is forced by fear to shut his mind and close his mouth, then all Americans are in peril" - Harry S. Truman, Address at the Dedication of the New Washington Headquarters of the American Legion, August 14, 1951

                            "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

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                            • #60
                              Originally posted by panag
                              hi ,

                              some one ought to make a poll , one for UU's and one for regular best unit , .....

                              have a nice day
                              So why don't you, if you think it's a good idea?

                              Iroquois have a good fast UU (Mounted Warrior) but I find the Golden Age happens way too early for my taste. I stick with my earlier choice of F-15.
                              Some cry `Allah O Akbar` in the street. And some carry Allah in their heart.
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