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  • To Field Marshall Thunderfire:
    Well it is good that we are on the same page. I was also think of heading right for London when we have taken the area since it is wide open country right to London and we can make good time.
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    • To Chief of Staff Mellian:
      I have heard that you want to elect people to the millitary. How is this to be done?? Anyone with no training in the Millitary could run for a postion and take over the millitary. I am sorry but this is simply wrong. I dont mind having our leaders who run the country elected by people, but the those who run the millitary as well??? Believe it or not, I have many ideas on forming a republic. As long as the Great Moderator supports this and is not opposed to it, as far as I know the millitary will not stand in your way.
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      • January 17th, 1401
        At the Edkoro Convention:
        The Moderator's secret Representative has expreseed the following ideas in response to teh Chief of Staff:
        10 Senators from each Province, chosen by the people
        Elections every 2 years (OOC that's over 2 weeks IRL, 5 years would be 2 months, way too long)

        Also, some people have presented a government theory they call "democracy" (not really something that the government would research but rather something the people would think of)

        EDIT: I know we don't have printing press so democracy would still be pretty far away, but this democracy is just the crude begininning and it will take a few years to fully develop
        Last edited by civman2000; November 14, 2002, 15:41.

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        • To: Forrest Majundar, Arhei Docks, Apolyton
          From: Conscript Dexter Majundar, Somewhere in America

          Dear Cousin,

          Thanks for your letter. I'm glad to hear you're up to your usual whiny self back home. I know you've always wanted to run your own shop, but sending letters to Aployton's leaders is foolish. They have their own worries, and I doubt the governor of Arhei will be happy to hear you are the one dragging his name through the mud. Perhaps you should be spending less time in the pub.

          We've had our camp in the American mountains set up for some time now. The Castle Fortress is already functional, and has fended off recent attacks from the scourge English. At first, I had my doubts about fortifying here in the rocky mountains, but the terrain is very helpful in battle.

          The mountains do have their drawbacks, though. The winter has been harsh. Our Field Marshall was wise to bring extra supplies of Apolyton Furs with us. They have not only been the only thing keeping me from getting frostbite, but the musky smell of home helps keep my spirits high.

          Our Field Marshall is none other than the Great Jack_www. He has been great in keeping the men energized. He even introduced himself personally to my company back when we first set up camp. At the time, we had barely arrived, and the wind was beginning to turn sour. We had just finished setting up our tents to bed down for the night. A few of us were sitting around our campfire, drinking some contraband ale that one of my comrades smuggled with him from home.

          As we sat, drank, and began to feel warm again, one of the more lightweight soldiers broke into the Apolyton Battle Hymn, and soon we all chorused together in our drunken state. We must have been loud, as when we finished, we could hear applause from the other nearby camps. Only there was someone closer by who was applauding as well. When he came out of the shadows, we all realized it was the Field Marshall himself.

          He praised us for our singing (though, in my opinion, we were off key), and sat down to warm his feet. We tried to hide our contraband, but having already had a few swigs, were very clumsy and the Filed Marshall immediately spotted it.

          Well, at that point, I expected to be on the next boat back home. But the most incredible thing happened: Field Marshall Jack asked for a drink! We were all surprised. And relieved, I can tell you. I can also tell you that the Field Marshall can hold his alcohol.

          I already knew the Field Marshall was charismatic when leading his men, but in person he is hilarious. He can do an uncanny impression of Chief of Staff Mellian. He had us in stitches!

          Well, cousin, it is getting late here, and there is word of a coming battle tomorrow. I must get rest. I hope this letter finds you in good health. You have been watching your diet, I hope.

          Your Cousin,
          Dex
          Last edited by majundar; November 14, 2002, 16:01.

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          • ooc: majundar i like your little stories about the people involved in things we write about, keep up the good work. But I think it is Easthaven that is over there right now not Thunderfire, but I could be wrong.
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            • ooc: Very nice story majundar. You put there really nice addition. But as Jack_www said it, I'm still in Apolyton as Commander of National Defense.
              Please, post more of these impressions of people. Next time maybe a sailor, a rich merchant?
              Or maybe you want to start a story with these two guys?

              Well Welcome.

              EDIT: Ok understood

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              To Field Marshalls:
              I think a better constitution for us would be:

              Military:
              The Military keeps its former organization.
              Field Marshalls only have to obey to Moderator.
              We won't have to follow government rules as politics never were good officers.

              Generals are selected by Field Marshalls as commander of Corps and Brigades among Colonel.

              Colonel are nominated by superior officers or by a vote of company officers.

              Company commander are elected by soldiers.
              Lieutenant, sargeant and corporal are nominated by Company commander and soldiers.

              ---------------------------------------------------------------
              Government

              Governors would be nominated by Moderator. One governor by district, a subdivision of a Region ( around 20 districts by region).

              For elections, every Apolyton Citizen would come to his District, and vote there.
              Each region would have 100 senators.

              These Senators would administrate their region with Governors. Senators, each 3 months would come to Apolyton City to discuss important matters. They would be elected each year.
              Finally, these senators, each 5 years, elect a new Prime Minister.


              Chief of Staff/Administrator/Prime Minister elected by every Apolyton citizens.

              Citizens are free people able to pay a contribution to pay their governors and ministers. (ooc: well a full democracy wouldn't exist yet, IMHO).

              As to be a Prime Minister, you need to be educated only state employees of a high rank(From Governors to Ministers and Generals).


              To your appreciations....
              Last edited by mmtt; November 14, 2002, 16:04.

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              • ooc: my bad- I thought easthaven was in apolyton at the conference... I must have my triumverate mixed up. I'll make the necessary edits.

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                • ooc: well I think he came back. Easthaven moves quite fast.

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                  • Originally posted by Jack_www
                    To Chief of Staff Mellian:
                    I have heard that you want to elect people to the millitary. How is this to be done?? Anyone with no training in the Millitary could run for a postion and take over the millitary. I am sorry but this is simply wrong. I dont mind having our leaders who run the country elected by people, but the those who run the millitary as well??? Believe it or not, I have many ideas on forming a republic. As long as the Great Moderator supports this and is not opposed to it, as far as I know the millitary will not stand in your way.
                    TO Military Advisor

                    Who did you hear that from? Never did I say that people can elect the military commanders, just the Administrator and the Governors in their cities. The Advisors would be chosen by the Administrator with the Senate's approval. Military commanders and Field Marshall positions are chosen by the Military Advisor.

                    Talking about chosing civilians as military commanders, what is with Giovanni Vodka, hmm?

                    -Mellian
                    Chief of Staff

                    *************
                    OOC: Awesome majundar if your going to refuse governship of Arhei, then someone else will replace the Governor....who won't be to pleased, especially if he finds out who wrote that letter...

                    Remember people, a full modern democracy won't be possible in the late-medieval...even if we run it. Republic is pre-democracy. full complete elections won't be possible either, which will be quite vulnerable at first. Printing Press will be a major help, especially the Radio, but until then, the Republic can't be to complicated or expect to have elections all of the time.
                    Constitution shouldn't be to complicated either.

                    Reason I gave the Senate and the populace the power to call an election anytime they want so it can be an added excuse to change Admin and so on for whatever reason. 5 years terms because it will be hard for a late-medieval nation to do organize an election and hope that everyone votes....which can be lost and frauded and so on.

                    **********************
                    Last edited by Mellian; November 14, 2002, 17:37.

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                    • To Military Advisor, forwarded to Chief of Staff:
                      Giovanni Vodka has been sent to Military Academy to graduate as a superior officer in the Apolyton Army. If he doesn't complete this training successfully, he won't be able to command any units.

                      Right now Giovanni Vodka is my aide-de-camp.

                      I have heard he has made good progress and he will now start an active tactical training as an unit commander.

                      I hope I have satisfied your inquiry.
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                      OOC:
                      I'm not sure if every Apolyton citizen knows how to read and write and thus won't be interested by politics.
                      The populace would only riots if there are too high taxes, famine etc... basic complains.

                      Maybe a Republic like Rome one would be better dunno...
                      Last edited by mmtt; November 14, 2002, 17:44.

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                      • EDKORO CONVENTION

                        How could a Governor Administer an entire province? I personally have a hard time keeping tract of everything that goes on in this empire! That is why there is Advisors to help me, and in turn Governors to help the government to govern the cities, but even they are hard to keep tabs of. Just recently, there was a letter sent to our government by a dockworker from Arhei about the bad conditions there. After some inquiries with the Domestic Advisor and some other connections, it is the Governor's fault for doing a terrible job. If it wasn't for that letter, i wouldn't of known what was going on there. So it is better if there was a Governor per city, and the people in those cities can elect someone they know and trust then some unknown chosen by the Government.

                        In turn, there will be 5 senators per city, chosen by Governors from the people of their cities. These senators will stay in the Senate for five years. If anything happens to them or they simply resign, they someone will be chosen by the Governor of whatevr city their from to replace them. The Senators will represent their cities, telling the Government what is going on there.

                        I also have a suggestion that a Communication Advisor should be chosen, who will make sure nothing goes wrong with our excellent Courier network, which will be heavily depended upon under a Republic/constitutional monarchy government, especially during elections.

                        -Mellian

                        OOC: Yes, a Republic system like Rome and Greece had back in their time....without the emperor stuff ...or even base on the republic government in of the early days of united states....without political parties, which are naturally formed anyway as they represent a group of people with the same views... but don't want to focus on parties like so many democracies do these days, especially in Canada!
                        Last edited by Mellian; November 14, 2002, 17:54.

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                        • Ok, ok, the Ivory deal is back on. I am now off to secure a silk deal with the Aztecs

                          Drako Chuko
                          I am the second place man!

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                          • OOC: lol, Sorry for the mix up of me being at Edkoro Convention and Frontlines at sametime, I was trying to go to convention first then frontlines....and.....I dunno I confused myself anyways, I've been and currently residing at the frontlines so there, I just wanted to state my position for the Convention. Mix up won't happen again, hopefully.

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                            • Giovanni Vodka was thinking.. in 7 months (I guessed you intended 7 days in RL, otherwise I am already late for it ) he would have to meet again with that man.
                              He said he was friend with my father, and he called me by name.
                              I think he will be able to help me in my quest.

                              While he was thinking of this stuff, the tactical teacher asked Vodka a question

                              "Giovanni Vodka.. seems it looks like you are not interested to my teaching.. would you tell me how the great Hannibal defeated the Roman troops at Cannae?"

                              "Uh... Hannibal sire?.. yes well, the Roman forces outnumbered him, but they did a mistake, they attacked him on the front on a very large plain.
                              The Cartaghinian forces were instead disposed as a tringle, with the Gallic troops up front, and the veterans on the back.... The Romans attacked the Cartacinians, and quickly defeated the Gallic troops, and started taking on the veterans... in the meanwhile the Hannibal heavy cavalry destroyed the Roman ones... at last the Cartaginians infantry withdrawed, and the Cavalry encircled the Roman legions, and destroyed them"

                              "Uhmmm... good very good Vodka... I thought you wasn't paying attention, but instead you were... you are making progresses very fast, and I think that your 'protector' will be pleased to know it"

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                              In the American front, his brother Colonel Giovanni Cognac.. and his Cognac raiders (composed of 200 of his former men + 300 Wolf troops) were scoutingthe numerous tunnels of the Eastern Mountains.

                              Cognac arrived back to the camp, with a letter and told his report to Easthaven.

                              "Exploring these mountains we discovered many natural tunnels, which will be very helpful when it will come to destroy the English Frotresses.

                              The main forts are just two, although 10 smaller ones are nearby and are situated on higher positions on moutains.

                              These are the English forces we counted defending the mountains
                              50'000 Medieval Infantry
                              30'000 Musketman
                              8'000 Knights
                              1'000 Cannons

                              The two niggest forts take 25% of those forces each.
                              And the 10 smaller ones only 5%, although they are harder to attack because of their strategical position.

                              We also have discovered a very long tunnel that would allow us to pass under the forts.. but it is very narrow and not very high... so only very few soldiers at a time can use it... and surely not any cannons or knight can go down there.
                              I have left 150 men, which I trust as myself gaurding the tunnel"
                              "Life is pretty simple: You do some stuff. Most fails. Some works. You do more of what works. If it works big, others quickly copy it. Then you do something else.
                              The trick is the doing something else."
                              — Leonardo da Vinci
                              "If God forbade drinking, would He have made wine so good?" - Cardinal Richelieu
                              "In vino veritas" - Plinio il vecchio

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                              • January 23rd 1401

                                To Field Marshalls(secret):
                                I agree with your plan for bypassing and isolating the English forts.

                                Proposed plan
                                Anyways, I developed a plan that would hopefully decieve the English, after all General Sun Tzu once said, "All warfare is based on deception". Therefore, Here's my plan. We make a phony plan that when the English get a hold of they will divert troops and resources to the area in which they 'know' our forces will invade but the forces that invade is only a diversionary tactic while our true invading forces blitz through the American border when we've taken enough advantage of the diversion.

                                The diversion force should have at least 70,000 men plus a medium to large fleet with mostly transports, most transports would be empty. Sea battles will commence before the diversion force is to set out so that the navy can clear the way for them. I have the map that the English will get their hands on, it shows our forces leave San Francisco landing at Leeds and making a 3 prong attack southward ultimately ending at Birmingham while Iroquois or Aztecas come from the south making it look like they are trying to connect to our invading forces of the north. While the true plan that will be carried out is the original plan of striking from America. The 70,000 diversion force will actually be ordered to land on the northern beach away from Leeds and fortify the hill until further orders(most likely go back on ships and go back to America).

                                I'm sure our intelligence can somehow get the phony plan in English hands, maybe they can somehow use General West who I still have in custody, he could "escape" somehow with the plans. I don't know thats up to you.

                                Hopefully this plan will give us the ability to achieve the element of surprise.

                                Approve, disapprove?

                                -Field Marshall Easthaven
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