The Apolyton Empire: Game

[Jack_www]

To Field Marshall Thunderfire:
You bring up good points. But I still want to take those ports to cripple the English navy. Or we can come up with a new plan all togather. One thing I was thinking is make the English fight a two front war so they have to split there forces in two. One force can head for the Capital, London, while the other goes for only key ports the English use and were most of there ships are, Instead of trying to take the both coasts. We then attack the English navy at the same time when we are taking there ports to prevent them from landing any troops by the sea. Anther thing is that we need to find a way to just go around their fortress in the hills in Mountains. We can always come back to them latter.

[civman2000]

November 21st, 1400
Not wanting to have to respond to Jack's question, the Moderator pretends it got lost and she never read it or heard about it...

[Easthaven I]

To Field Marshalls:

-A large front with only small supply line. If the offensive must last longer it's not sure our men will have enough ammo and food to counter enemy counter-offensives.

Supply lines from America I believe would be sufficient and if we gain support from France we will have another supply line. Besides that, in the NCC offensive the troops would have captured a saltpeter mine therefore giving them the needed ammo. As for food, the troops will have their original supply and ones from the supply lines, if ever they run low they must live off the land, take food from the English towns. Apolyton soldiers are a higher priority than English civilians.

Small local counter offensive could crush our communication to America and thus Apolyton.

I'm sure we can set up a system of message riders to counter this. Besides that we will have Commanders commanding each offensive they are competent enough to not become crippled if our communications ever were cut off.

Our troops will be attacked from two sides. Fast enemy cavalry units will try to break our fronts in weak points

We will be attacking the English from two sides not including a third front opened up by the Iroqious (or French) from the south. 3 fronts they must worry about. As for fast enemy cavalry units, they have none. Fox regiments are the first cavalry-like units ever made and I invented them as well as their tactics, I doubt the English would of had time to actually create their own from when I first created them. Even if they did more Fox Regiments are being created now, they would wipe out any English fox-like units.

with the support of the British Navy and European Union forces.

Our Navy is just as big as the British Navy, they will have their hands full battling our ships. Besides, this offensive will cripple their navy. Their ships will have to go somewhere else to resupply giving our ships control of the sea between The Monkey and The Rock which means another supply line will open directly from Apolyton across the sea.

Also you must remember that our enemies have fortress and strongholds along American border. It will take long before they fall and our communication lines will be under threat.

You have a valid point. Although, the NCC won't be effected by this since there are no mountians in English territory in the north part of the border. Another offensive will be devised for handling the enemy in this regard. The only ones that will be directly effected is the ECC. And once the ECC gets past them and their offensive is under way then the enemy in the mountains will have no supply lines and will be surrounded by Allied forces, they will starve and run out of ammo if they're musketmen.

You have valid points that should be considered but I believe all could be countered.

Also, this plan will achieve many objectives:
1)we cripple their Navy forcing their ships to leave and lose control of the sea between The Rock and The Monkey. Making our Navy the most powerful.
2) We capture or destroy 4 of their vital strategic resources cutting off their supplies of horses, two saltpeter mines, and one iron mine.
3) gain territory into England and getting closer to their capital.
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We need also to know enemy positions and number.

I agree. I don't want to make them up because I would be a little biased. Maybe Mellian can help us out here .

We shouldn't attack now and I have also heard about a Republican group. Remember, if we win, we are powerful, if we lose we fall...

You have a point.

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Supply lines map

[Mellian]

TO the Military Commanders

I agree with Thunderfire and doubt we'll be able to take several English cities in one fell swoop. By now, knowing that war was coming and after being officially at war for 2-3 months now, I think the English and their European Union allies had enough time to reinforce the coasts and the english-american border. Remember, no plan survives contact with the enemy.

How do you plan to have Iroquois units to France without the English Navy knowing? Better to allow them to help fight through the English border like they are doing now along with our forces and the just as large force of american units (Knights and Musket Infantry).

The Aztec and Zulus are slowly moving units into France via the French-Aztec border. They won't be ready for an offensive until early next year. France rather not go to war with their "allies", but won't help them against us either.

[Mellian]

Originally posted by civman2000
November 16th, 1400
To Mellian: Vegeimen City it shall be. I approve of it being renamed to Mingapulco. I also think it might be a nice idea to rename Edkoro to Republic City.

November 1400

TO the Moderator

Thank you moderator and I agree about renaming Edkoro, especially that it is where we'll sign the constitution for the new Republic-Monarchy.

I'll begin plans for Vegeimen City to prepare for the construction of the new Admin Palace and the Senate. Will also start writing up a draft of the constitution with some of the Advisors (ones she can trust).

[Easthaven I]

The plan is a major offensive blitz with major goals, if you want it shrunk down to goals for the near future then heres a plan that calls for slower more cautious approach. The old divide and conquer. Encircling each city individually to cut off any chances for reinforcements and supplies.

[civman2000]

November 22nd, 1400
The Moderator has called for a National Philosophy Convention in Edkoro. SHe has assured all philosophers that they will be free to express any of their ideas that do not directly call for a violent overthrow of the Moderator without interference at the Convention.
To Mellian: Let's use this convention to get ideas for the Republic.

[Lord Zalzabad]

22nd of November 1400

Field Marshals,

I may only be the trade advisor, but I sutdied tha art of war under the great Sun Tzu. I beleve that you should hold off invasion of england so close behind a civil war. The troops need rest and retraining, and since England is expecting us to attack, we should not give them what they expect, and play a ruse against them. There forces, seeing that we are no threat since we are not attacking, will demobalize to a much less state of readyness. Our forces will then be able to blitz them and sieze many of thier citys, with little casulties

Drako Chuko, Trade Advisor

BTW, I do not think that this should be a whitewash victory, there has to be some defeats. When have you ever conducted total war against your technilogicly equal opponent without taking some casulties in Civ 3?

[Mellian]

Originally posted by civman2000
November 22nd, 1400
The Moderator has called for a National Philosophy Convention in Edkoro. SHe has assured all philosophers that they will be free to express any of their ideas that do not directly call for a violent overthrow of the Moderator without interference at the Convention.
To Mellian: Let's use this convention to get ideas for the Republic.

TO Moderator

Yes, that is a good idea *sounds surprised*, would give the people an opportunity to make a difference. I'll get the Domestic Advisor to organize it, and have it in December and have it last until January or February. That should be enough time for the citizens to figure out the Republic should work, and what to put in the constitution.

OOC: Jack as already ordered the Apolyton forces there to attack during the Civil War, with the help of the Americans who declared war on england when they did. Iroquois later joined to help them. They should be able to cross the border and bypass or captured or destroyed the english fortifications. They would be close at sieging the frontier cities by now.

only reason they didn't capture anything by now is because of the lack of strong leadership, trouble to penetrate the English fortifications and then encountering EU reinforcements just before reaching the three cities.

[Jack_www]

To All Advisors:
I know many of you may mean well in giving advice to the millitary, but we are more then cappible of planing this war. From now on all war plans will be held in secret and only the Field Marshalls and the Moderator will be able to see them. If too many people know, the plans can be leaked by spies.

[Jack_www]

To Trade Advisor:
It is too late for that, our troops have already begun to advance into English terriotory and have been fighting the forts of the English along the English and American border. Please do not disscuss our plans anymore in the open, we must be carefull of spies running around Apolyton.

[Jack_www]

To Field Marshal Thunderfire and Easthaven I(Secret):
We must keep these plans to our selfs and be carefull. I still like Easthaven's plan still, even with the drawbacks you pointed out. We can modify it and have it work even better. We should wait untill all our allies are ready to attack. Then we can make the English fight a three front war. This will allow Easthaven to execute his plan with out the drawbacks you point out.

[civman2000]

The Moderator agrees that war plans should be secret and be only known by the military, the Moderator, and teh Chief of Staff.

[Easthaven I]

November 25th 1400

To Field Marshalls Thunderfire and Jack(secret):
I agree with modifying my old plan. Also, when are we going to schedule the offensive to begin? I would recommend that Operation Coastal Conquest (you can change it if you want, i just named it that for now) commence by the end of April 1401 after the winter season. Plenty of time to train our troops and to rest them as well. As for our forces currently fighting on the English front I would recommend they fortify their positions and regroup. I will also send some of my officers to our allies to train their men more efficiently and also create some Fox Regiments.

Our navy needs to gain control of the seas and make safe an area of passage where we can send troops to America. The Navy is a very critical component in this war.

-Field Marshall Easthaven

[Easthaven I]

BTW, I do not think that this should be a whitewash victory, there has to be some defeats. When have you ever conducted total war against your technilogicly equal opponent without taking some casulties in Civ 3?

Of course, I agree. It's got to be realistic. But that doesn't mean we have to face a major defeat either.