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  • #61
    Originally posted by civman2000
    On a brighter side, the Empress has reconsidered in-depth negotiation with all nations claiming the moons. We are considering offering almost anything other than our Martian territory in exchange for you staying out of them.
    Good. We must try to negotiate, as war is good for no one.

    However, the leaders of Australia and Italy have control over Phobos, not I, so I can't negotiate for them.

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    • #62
      OK, that's enough for one night, I hope to resume negotiations for the Earthling withdrawal from my moons tomorrow. Please consider my new offers of teaching you Earthlings some of the finer points of IPBMs and SRVBMs and some other technological triks, as well as selling some supplies of resources that are only found in small quantities on Mars for very cheap prices, IF you withdraw from my moons.

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      • #63
        To Admiral William, Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

        Greetings from Jonny, President of the German Democratic Fourth Reich.

        Although I must admit the Martians and the Free Lunar States are powerful, there are other sides to join, such as the Austro-European Alliance. (Italy,Germany,France,Australia)

        Then again, you are already part of an alliance with the US, Russia, and Canada, so you could just stay allied with them and no more.

        May your reign be long and prosperous.

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        • #64
          To President Jonny, of the German Democratic Fourth Reich.

          My thanks for your warm welcome and offer, but I must decline. In this great age of change we are indeed evaluating our alliances, but for now we will stay loyal to our Pact.
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          General Announcements

          A new type of weapon, called the Covential Assault Missile(CAM) is being developed by our scientists. Meant for use from space, it is a non-nuclear alternative weapon. It uses the same principle in which meteors collide and cause massive destruction, though on a smaller scale meant for destroying citys and troop movements. Though more costly and not quite as effective, it spreads no radiation. This is meant only to be as a deterrant, on Earth and in our many colonys in space.

          Also, we would like to announce the colonization and conversion of Deimos into a space dock, meant to provide more suitable docking and traveling through and from Mars. Our expansion is a peaceful one, and we are only sending a token(though well armed) expedition to the small moon. No one has legitimate claims to this moon, and once completed will offer some of its services to other nations.
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          Goverment

          A new bill was passed today, allowing more power to the Prime Minister to introduce changes in laws and in military matters, in the event of an attack on the UK or one of its colonys.
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          P.S.: How i'm doing so far? And great advice there civman. :P

          Edit- Also heres a link on moon sizes. http://www.mufor.org/solmoons.html
          "Every good communist should know political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." - Mao tse-Tung

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          • #65
            ***NEW TORINO - PHOBOS***
            Michelangelo, governor of the Colony of New Torino was extremely worried about the evelving of the situation he sent this telegram to Roma.
            "MARTIAN ARE ANGRY STOP THEY THREAT TO LAUNCH NUCLEAR WEAPONS ON EARTH IF WE DO NOT WITHDRAW FROM PHOBOS STOP WE DO NOT THINK THEY WILL STOP THERE STOP THEY PROBABLY WILL ATTACK EVERY COLONY ON MARS (UK BASE, RUSSIA BASE, FRANCO-GERMAN BASE AND AMERICAN BASE) AND PROBABLY THEY WILL JOIN WITH THE ULS AND ATTACK EARTH COLONIES ON THE MOON STOP THERE IS NO CHANCE THEY WILL STOP THERE, THEY WILL ATTACK EARTH TOO STOP
            WE CANNOT ALLOW THEM TO DO SO STOP"

            ***ROMA - NEW ITALIAN EMPIRE***

            Raffaello, was scared of those words, and ask for the opinion of Emperor Giovanni del Vino

            "Sire"

            "Yes, what do you need?"

            "do you receive the telegram from Michelangelo?"

            "yes, I don't like this, I know Michelangelo very well, he does not get scared of anything plus the martian just declared they have developed a new Inperplanetary Nuke"

            "I know, should we reinforce our army?"

            "yes definetly, we have thousand and thousand of unenployes, they will not protest if we draft some of them"

            "should we go in war-time mobilization"

            "call me General Garibaldi, I wish to speak with him"

            Garibaldi was an old and wise general, he was the leader of the Repubblican army, and even if the Monarchs outnumbered the Repubblicans 10:1 he menaged to win several battles, when the civil war ended, his life was spared and he was given the title of super-general of the New Italian Empire Army.

            "General"

            "Emperor Del Vino"

            "We are on the verge of war with two very powerful nations, what do you suggest?"

            "Can we beat them?"

            "I'm not sure of that"

            "So... let's agree for a peace with them"

            "I would, but we need those colonies in Phobos, there are too many preciuos minerals and resources that we need"

            "You should ask the Martians for this: ask them for a permission to use their moon and the resources in there, but pay them a rent for that, maybe shipping there some of our wine, our clothes or any other luxury we have in large quantities... I'm sure the Martians love WINE"

            "uhmm maybe you are right, if we ask them just to use Phobos so that we can mine our own resources... an we give them luxuries in exchange for that, we might avoid this huge war"

            "glad to see I could help you My Emperor"

            "oh General?... we should still enlarge our army size... we still do not know if the Martians will accept our proposal"

            "it will be done"

            In short
            Italians ask to rent Phobos from Martian in exchange of Wine and other luxuries
            Italians not liking the situation upgrade their army to large and send 40% of it to the Italian base on the moon and another 10% of it to Phobos.

            Saluti
            "Life is pretty simple: You do some stuff. Most fails. Some works. You do more of what works. If it works big, others quickly copy it. Then you do something else.
            The trick is the doing something else."
            — Leonardo da Vinci
            "If God forbade drinking, would He have made wine so good?" - Cardinal Richelieu
            "In vino veritas" - Plinio il vecchio

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            • #66
              Originally posted by ChaotikVisions


              P.S.: How i'm doing so far? And great advice there civman. :P
              OOC: You are doing great but remember that the goal of a NES is to create an interesting story, and not to win it (then if you win it is better, of course).

              IC:

              Camillo Benso conte di Cavour, Italian ambassador in the United Kingdom greets the new Prime Minister of the UK
              I hope you heard of this massive problem with Mars, and we hope that the UK, as well as her allies, will join to the side of terrestrial in case of war.

              Saluti
              "Life is pretty simple: You do some stuff. Most fails. Some works. You do more of what works. If it works big, others quickly copy it. Then you do something else.
              The trick is the doing something else."
              — Leonardo da Vinci
              "If God forbade drinking, would He have made wine so good?" - Cardinal Richelieu
              "In vino veritas" - Plinio il vecchio

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              • #67
                To the Italian Ambassador, Camilo Benso conte di Cavour

                My thanks for your warm welcome and advice. Some of the Martian Empire's moves and words have been quite unsettling. I would think them mad to incur the wrath of any of the Earth nations, but with ULS behind them I am not so sure now. In light of this, I am sending a proposal to all Earth nations, one will arrive shortly after this message.
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                To M1, ruler of the Martian Empire

                Though I find your claim to the moons of Mars somewhat ludicrous, as before we Earthlings arrived you did not even have the power to reach them, let it not be said we are unfair. I will offer you the designs of the Neo-Spitfire, an atmospheric/low-orbit fighter designed to prevent invasions from space, as well as a trade agreement in exchange for Deimos. I do not seek war of any kind and hope we can resolved this peacefully.
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                To all Earth Nations

                In light of recent events, with the ULS and the Martian Empire. I am proposing the Gaian Act. This act will ally all Earth nations in event of a direct attack on Earth by a power not native to Earth. Including but not limited to rogue colonys and alien powers. Direct attacks are along the lines of unproved invasions of Earth nations, as well as nuclear attacks. We must preserve our Earth at all costs, it is more precious then any jewel in this universe.
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                Internal Affairs

                William, after having dispatched these messages to his foriegn advisor for reviewing, he asked his secretary to bring him Lord General Ruthbrige.

                "You called for me, Admiral?"

                "I don't quite trust these Martians, or the ULS, I want you to begin drafting among some the colonists on the Moon and Mars."

                "But Admiral, won't the Parliment object? We haven't had a draft in years, our people like to think of ourselves as being peaceful."

                "I do not think so General, do you remember the commercials during my campagin?"

                "A few Admiral, but not many, why?"

                The Admiral picks up a remote and turns on a TV set on the other side of the office, a tape showing a lizard-like creature chopping up a UK astronaught with an archaic weapon.

                "These were from the first few bad incounters with the Martian Empire, despite there having been almost none since, anti-alient sentiment is widespread, even more so at the thought of them attacking Earth."

                The General nodded as he watched the tape, thinking to himself.

                "Alright Admiral, i'll order the drafting and training at once, and leave you to handle the Parliment."

                "Very good General, be sure to offer good bonuses for the colonists that sign up, we do not want to repeat history. Let our people know this is to protect them, not to subdue them."

                The General nodded to the Admiral once more, gathered his things and left.

                The Admiral sighed and leaned back in his chair, thinking to himself.

                "Hopefully I have enough time to secure the colonies, or at least Deimos, without that none of this will work..."
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                In closing
                Diplomatic Messages sent to Italy, Martian Empire, and all Earth nations.

                Military increased slightly, about a quarter of the way more towards having a Medium army.
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                Military Status as follows

                On Earth:
                55% of: Army
                55% of: Air Force
                35% of: Space Navy
                100% of: Oceanic Navy

                On Moon:
                20% of: Army
                20% of: Air Force
                30% of: Space Navy

                On Mars:
                20% of: Army
                20% of: Air Force
                30% of: Space Navy

                On the way to Deimos:
                5% of: Army
                5% of: Air Force
                5% of: Space Navy
                Also on the way are colonization and construction crews.

                Nukes:
                All currently based on Earth, exact amounts kept secret.
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                P.S: Any limit on the amount of things we can do per day, and how exactly are changes determined for research and increasing miltary power and the like?

                Edit- Argh, thats "signing Earth nations", and "unprovoked" in the Gaian part. And I figured you should take changes slowly, and only affect things once per turn. Its nice to know I can do all the diplimatic wrangling I want.
                Last edited by ChaotikVisions; May 29, 2002, 01:28.
                "Every good communist should know political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." - Mao tse-Tung

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                • #68
                  P.S: Any limit on the amount of things we can do per day, and how exactly are changes determined for research and increasing miltary power and the like?
                  OOC: I'm not sure, since the title say "NO MOD", but I think it is not possible to do more than one military upgrade per day, it wouldn't make much sense to upgrade all army, navy and space fleet to gigantic from small in one day, as for diplomacy i think it is unlimited, as long as there is somebody to interact with you, and you speak just for yourself.

                  IC:
                  To all Earth Nations

                  In light of recent events, with the ULS and the Martian Empire. I am proposing the Gaian Act. This act will ally all Earth nations in event of a direct attack on Earth by a power not native to Earth. Including but not limited to rogue colonys and alien powers. Direct attacks are along the lines of unproved invasions of Earth nations, as well as nuclear attacks. We must preserve our Earth at all costs, it is more precious then any jewel in this universe.
                  This document received the signature of:
                  Emperor Giovanni del Vino
                  therefore was ratified by the New Italian Empire and his Space Colonies.

                  Saluti
                  "Life is pretty simple: You do some stuff. Most fails. Some works. You do more of what works. If it works big, others quickly copy it. Then you do something else.
                  The trick is the doing something else."
                  — Leonardo da Vinci
                  "If God forbade drinking, would He have made wine so good?" - Cardinal Richelieu
                  "In vino veritas" - Plinio il vecchio

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Giovanni Wine


                    To all Earth Nations

                    In light of recent events, with the ULS and the Martian Empire. I am proposing the Gaian Act. This act will ally all Earth nations in event of a direct attack on Earth by a power not native to Earth. Including but not limited to rogue colonys and alien powers. Direct attacks are along the lines of unproved invasions of Earth nations, as well as nuclear attacks. We must preserve our Earth at all costs, it is more precious then any jewel in this universe.
                    80% of Parliment ratifies Gaian act. PM CI Willks also signs it.

                    To Admiral William: Hello, I see we both worship the same monarch so continued cooperation is a no brainer. England knows the benefit of colonies herself, and ours are being threatened. Aus. thanks you for the Gaian act.

                    My Best Friend Italy!:

                    Your give peace a chance slogans are begining to wear a bit thin. Face it we a probably going to war. New Torino and New Sydney will be the first to be attacked as well as Italian mining colonies and Australian Agricultural domes. Send more of your space fleet to protect OUR citizens!
                    Germany: We will try and give you some land on Phobos, probably much of the southern hemisphere.

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                    • #70
                      The EMpress accepts the British and Italian proposals, but still demands that Australia and Germany withdraw. We are willing to pay, but time is short...

                      We are perfectly willing to rent the lmoons to you to mine, but they cannot be colonies.

                      There are now 4 Neo-Spitfires in the Martian Fleet, and 2 new conventional ships. The two parts of Mars have been successfully united through settlement.

                      In response to the Gaian Act, the Empress has enacted the Arien Act, which seems to be meaningless so far because there is only one free nation on Mars. However, the Empress hopes that the colonies will recognize their Martian Heritage if an alien nation should attack them.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by ChaotikVisions
                        To all Earth Nations

                        In light of recent events, with the ULS and the Martian Empire. I am proposing the Gaian Act. This act will ally all Earth nations in event of a direct attack on Earth by a power not native to Earth. Including but not limited to rogue colonys and alien powers. Direct attacks are along the lines of unproved invasions of Earth nations, as well as nuclear attacks. We must preserve our Earth at all costs, it is more precious then any jewel in this universe.
                        Only 40% of Parliament votes for it, so it is not ratified.

                        They claim that they will not sign unless war is inevitable, but at this point, negotiations are still possible.

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                        • #72
                          To MI, Empress of the Martians

                          Here is our proposal:

                          1. We will pay rent for the section of Phobos we have.

                          2. We will NOT pay rent for our colony on Mars, for it has been ours for a much longer time than our portion of Phobos. However, we guarantee no further colonization there.

                          3. We will agree to the Martian Way (the "martian monroe doctrine"), meaning we will not colonize or rent any new land on Mars or its moons, but will keep what we already have colonized or are currently leasing.

                          Please send a response stating if you agree or disagree, and if you disagree, possible ways to change it.

                          Sincerely,
                          Jonny
                          President of the German Democratic Fourth Reich

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                          • #73
                            agreed. The rent idea was meant to only apply to the moons anyway, I would have been delighted if you misunderstood and agreed to pay for the colonies

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                            • #74
                              P.S: Any limit on the amount of things we can do per day, and how exactly are changes determined for research and increasing miltary power and the like?
                              Resaerch is as you please if it is realistic (All are post-modern except for Mars)
                              Everything is basically : Keep it realistic
                              No limit on posts perday.
                              Read Blessed be the Peacemakers | Read Political Freedom | Read Pax Germania: A Story of Redemption | Read Unrelated Matters | Read Stains of Blood and Ash | Read Ripper: A Glimpse into the Life of Gen. Jack Sterling | Read Deutschland Erwachte! | Read The Best Friend | Read A Mothers Day Poem | Read Deliver us From Evil | Read The Promised Land

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                              • #75
                                I'm glad we could come to an agreement, Empress.

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                                Hey SKILORD, are you ever going to update the first post in this thread? (about alliances, leaders, military strength, etc.)

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