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  • #46


    Just say no to the UN. No offense, but I think it's a terrible idea.

    -Arrian
    grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

    The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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    • #47
      UN Proposal 000004 Dd

      Declaration on the Rights of Omlettes

      The integrity of eggs shall be respected under all circumstances.
      A true ally stabs you in the front.

      Secretary General of the U.N. & IV Emperor of the Glory of War PTWDG | VIII Consul of Apolyton PTW ISDG | GoWman in Stormia CIVDG | Lurker Troll Extraordinaire C3C ISDG Final | V Gran Huevote Team Latin Lover | Webmaster Master Zen Online | CivELO (3°)

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      • #48
        MZ - you are either brave or stupid to bring this up. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say you are stu.. er no I mean brave.

        I think Theseus said that the Public forum is the UN. I wholeheartedly agree. I don't know why people get upset by the flamefests; I for one think they are great, and an integral part to the game, and more importantly, the dynamic we have created. Logic and emotion and all our various personalities get intertwined. Sort of like RL, but with less hassles.

        And MZ, I don't think all agreements or treaties will be worthless by ptwdgIV. Some stick, some don't. Trust and understanding go beyond the written word - which is what I believe vondrack was saying. There is skill involved in trying to figure when a treaty is no longer working for the other civ, and if they might renege on it based on the level of perceived inequity, the other civ's prior behaviour, or other influences in the game.

        The only form of UN I could see is H_E's version - which would simply be the same public threads in a diffrent venue and with some roleplay added. But no power to do anything. The one advantage is that the flamefests could be reduced to one official speaker per team - but IMO, that would kill most of the fun.

        Game on!

        (And Ghengis - careful with Shiber - the SPCA is watching you...)
        Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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        • #49
          SPCA?
          Is this a new kind of battle flea or something?
          "Close your eyes, for your eyes will only tell the truth,
          And the truth isn't what you want to see,
          Close your eyes, and let music set you free..."
          - Phantom of the Opera

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Shiber
            SPCA?
            Is this a new kind of battle flea or something?
            Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.
            Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.

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            • #51
              I hereby declare this UN officially open. All individual members of any PTWDG team may request recognition by the UN and vote and propose resolutions.

              The sovereign state of GhengisFarb petitions for recognition.

              The UN officially recognizes the Sovereign State of GhengisFarb.

              JoJo, UN representative of the Sovereign State of GhengisFarb proposed the following UN Resolution:

              That SPCA be declared a Terrorist and Outlawed Organization and any nation giving harbor to its agents be boycotted by all UN members.

              As the only current recognized UN Member, GhengisFarb votes Aye the resolution passes and SPCA officially goes on the list of Terrorist and Outlawed Organizations.

              United Nations Members
              Sovereign State of GhengisFarb (Formerly known as Ghengland in the NationStates game)

              List of Terrorist and Outlawed Organizations
              SPCA

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              • #52
                Sorry, but this entire U.N. idea seems incredibly lame to me (regardless of form). A game U.N. would be as meaningless as the real U.N. when it comes to telling sovereign nations what is "right" and "wrong". In the end, power politics will be power politics (ESPECIALLY in the cutthroat Civ3 world...) and no U.N. is going to be able to do anything about it (or even be inclined to do so other than by partisan voting that typically does not reflect real power relations).

                As for the flamefest, that stuff just comes with the territory. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. That said, you don't HAVE to sink to the same level unless you want to.
                Long-time poster on Apolyton and WePlayCiv
                Consul of Apolyton from the 1st Civ3 Inter-Site Democracy Game (ISDG)
                7th President of Apolyton in the 1st Civ3 Democracy Game

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