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  • Preferred Victory Conditions.

    Please comment.

    Reading another thread, I became interested in what VCs others prefer. I seem to get more cultural victories than any other, which is fine somewhat, because I often don't care how I win or if I've won. What I mean by that is, cultural victory or not, if I want to conquer the world I'll keep playing and do it. I don't forget the Aztec invasion of 3 thousand years ago and I demand payback.

    I want to experience every aspect of the game at every level, so there are times I am trying for a specific VC, and at these times I turn some of the others off. However, I am ASSUMING the AI, as each civ, is trying for all the VCs that are on and thus I would be limiting how the AI plays if some are off. So I don't do that often.

    My (brief) opinion of the VCs are thus:

    Domination: unsatisfying, as I feel I cheated myself out of a conquest victory.
    Space Race: fine, but I'll probably keep playing.
    Diplomatic: I'll build the UN and make sure it doesn't happen.
    Conquest: if I'm in the mood.
    Cultural: happens too fast, too often.
    Elimination: here's where I lose on the higher levels, but that's okay--the only way to learn how to win is to lose a lot.
    Regicide: nice option. Wiped out France in ancient era recently--it regenerated and later became the best of my allies. Never would have happened before PtW.
    Mass Reg.: too many kings (but they make good scouts early on).
    Victory Point: haven't tried it.
    Capture the Princess: why? She'd only boss me around.
    54
    Domination
    12.96%
    7
    Space Race
    25.93%
    14
    Diplomatic
    1.85%
    1
    Conquest
    27.78%
    15
    Cultural
    9.26%
    5
    Elimination
    3.70%
    2
    Regicide
    1.85%
    1
    Mass Regicide
    0.00%
    0
    Victory Point Locations
    1.85%
    1
    Capture the Princess
    0.00%
    0
    None of the Above
    5.56%
    3
    I like to lose
    9.26%
    5
    Last edited by Aramis; March 2, 2003, 15:11.
    "We may be in a hallucination here, but that's no excuse for being delusional!." K.S. Robinson, 'The Years Of Rice And Salt.'

  • #2
    I voted for Dom, but I use Conquest. I hate the Cult/Dip stuff. So it is usually Dom and ConQ. Conquest only if you are going for score.

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    • #3
      Conq is my preference, and my only beef with Dom is that I feel like I should've tried harder if I was that g-d strong.

      Still curious--if I turn of Cult, will the AI respond by not bothering to build cult improvements or particular Great Wonders? Or does the AI even pay any attention to what VCs are on? Or off?
      "We may be in a hallucination here, but that's no excuse for being delusional!." K.S. Robinson, 'The Years Of Rice And Salt.'

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      • #4
        I keep all the standard VCs. If you turn some off you don't have that opportunity to win. I just had a 53-hour game where I had to do a spaceship win (edited to be delayed until after Integrated Defense) because it had become the only option available.

        BTW, the way the poll is set up, you can only vote for one, so I didn't.

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        • #5
          the way the poll is set up, you can only vote for one, so I didn't.
          Mea culpa. I will try to adjust that.

          Vote anyway. I'm really curious.
          "We may be in a hallucination here, but that's no excuse for being delusional!." K.S. Robinson, 'The Years Of Rice And Salt.'

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rmds
            Still curious--if I turn of Cult, will the AI respond by not bothering to build cult improvements or particular Great Wonders? Or does the AI even pay any attention to what VCs are on? Or off?
            I don't the AI would try any less, as cultural improvements serve other purposes (such as culture flip, or the prevention of such. Also the extension of your borders). Also, cultural wonders are necessary for cultural civs to get a pacifistic GA.
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            • #7
              Blood lust baby! makes the AI way more aggressive.. happyness is World war after world war in a game..
              I spend most my money on Wine, Women and Song.. the rest i just waste.

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              • #8
                hi ,

                we can only vote for one choice , .... yet the top reads "vote for more then one if you like" , .....

                have a nice day
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                • #9
                  Yes Bloodlust victories are the way to go and much more satisfying to boot!!!
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                  • #10
                    Long live conquest!!!

                    However, I usally end up winning through Space Race about 80% of the time.

                    Never had a cultural victory and never actually strived for one..
                    A true ally stabs you in the front.

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                    • #11
                      I wouldn't advocate striving for a cultural victory. Takes the fun out of planning an invasion.

                      Conquest is very satisfying towards the end of a long game spent building up a culture. But that usually means a cultural victory is on the way, spoiling the conquest victory.

                      I bring it on myself, it would appear. Note to self: Be nastier earlier in the game.

                      I am surprised space race has two more votes than conquest.
                      "We may be in a hallucination here, but that's no excuse for being delusional!." K.S. Robinson, 'The Years Of Rice And Salt.'

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by panag
                        we can only vote for one choice , .... yet the top reads "vote for more then one if you like" , .....
                        Oh, that. Pity. Mea culpa.
                        I can't seem to edit it out of there.
                        "We may be in a hallucination here, but that's no excuse for being delusional!." K.S. Robinson, 'The Years Of Rice And Salt.'

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rmds


                          Oh, that. Pity. Mea culpa.
                          I can't seem to edit it out of there.
                          hi ,

                          PM a mod or make a new one and have this one closed , ....

                          have a nice day
                          - RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
                          - LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
                          WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?

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                          • #14
                            I voted for Conquest... oh sweet conquest That option satisfies my desires of world-wide domination

                            But I also use the Cultural victory sometimes.
                            And the diplomatic victory.. well.. that's not my fault... every other civ have me "polite" so...
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by panag

                              PM a mod or make a new one and have this one closed , ....
                              I'm looking and looking--please shorten my searching. How does one PM a mod?

                              Have a nice day, too. It's 60 and sunny here--1st time in months!
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