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Next PTW patch is coming out probably in as little as a week.
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If it does, this isn't going to be fixed at this stage.Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
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I've patched PTW 21 times since I've gotten it and none of them corrupted saves from a previous patch level.Originally posted by Switch
yes, but wouldn't the patch make the save unusable or something? I don't think upgrading mid-game is really a possibility...Seemingly Benign
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Well that's good to hear WarpStorm!
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nice job Firaxis... hopefully by 2004 we'll have a decent Civ 3 
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2004??? That early ???Originally posted by Sava
nice job Firaxis... hopefully by 2004 we'll have a decent Civ 3
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Oh c'mon it took over a year for someone to even find this bug. Like you could do better.Originally posted by Sava
nice job Firaxis... hopefully by 2004 we'll have a decent Civ 3
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IIrc I did have a few strange side-effect from taking a save trough the upgrading path.Originally posted by WarpStorm
I've patched PTW 21 times since I've gotten it and none of them corrupted saves from a previous patch level.Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
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Alva, can you elaborate on the "few strange side-effects"?____________________________
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"If God, as they say, is homophobic, I wouldn't worship that God." - Archbishop Desmond Tutu
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I have had issues with taking a Civ3 save into PTW.Seemingly Benign
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Good catch.
And yes, I use mobilization often... I would never have thought to figure this out though.The greatest delight for man is to inflict defeat on his enemies, to drive them before him, to see those dear to them with their faces bathed in tears, to bestride their horses, to crush in his arms their daughters and wives.
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Well, I can see why there would be problems with converting a Civ3 game to PTW, since with the improvements in PTW, they are not really the same game anymore...Originally posted by WarpStorm
I have had issues with taking a Civ3 save into PTW.____________________________
"One day if I do go to heaven, I'm going to do what every San Franciscan does who goes to heaven - I'll look around and say, 'It ain't bad, but it ain't San Francisco.'" - Herb Caen, 1996
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Ah, but I'm not being paid to make video games. It's not like this is the first bug my friend. Bashing Firaxis is quite justified.Originally posted by WarpStorm
Oh c'mon it took over a year for someone to even find this bug. Like you could do better.
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So what is your job? How about if 1000 people stood around to watch you do your job and posted publically every time you screwed something up or made an honest mistake?Originally posted by Sava
Ah, but I'm not being paid to make video games. It's not like this is the first bug my friend. Bashing Firaxis is quite justified.
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Accountability is part of the job. I'm actually studying to become a video game designer. And mistakes cost money. When patch after patch after patch is still buggy, they deserve the grilling they get. I'm not one of those, "Firaxas sucks!",etc, people. I'm simply pointing out the obvious. One honest mistake is one thing, but this game was released with a great number of bugs that were obvious. I don't blame the developers as much as I blame the publisher, though.Originally posted by Ozymandous
So what is your job? How about if 1000 people stood around to watch you do your job and posted publically every time you screwed something up or made an honest mistake?
Bet you wouldn't like that, eh?To us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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I think I've come across a related bug in my current game. After capturing a city on an island with a 3 population left and quelling the resitors, the people are so upset that even 2 entertainers won't enable the third to harvest food. Rather than just let them starve down to 1, I wanted to pop-rush a harbor to get them some luxuries.I've confirmed this in Civ3 1.29f and PTW 1.14f. How in the world hasn't this been known? Does NOBODY ever use War-Time Mobilization?
A straight up rush would cost the lives of too many citizens. Rushing a medium level unit would also. I rushed a real cheap unit just to get some shields from my starving citizens. I then switched to a medium unit and it let me rush that one now. Finally, I switched to the harbor and had enough shields to build it that same turn.
I am playing a communist Germany under war-time mobilization, Civ3 v1.29.
Is this a simple production switching expliot? The cost of pop-rushing shouldn't be affected by mobilization, should it?
This bug is probably just showing up because so many critically minded people gave up plowing through the bugs long before this.
BTW, how do you get those cartoony indicators by the citizens on the city screen? Is this a PTW enhancement?Enjoy Slurm - it's highly addictive!Comment
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