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  • Crazy Bug: Infinite Shield Production

    1. Get a civilization into War-Time Mobilization.

    2. Zoom to a city that's producing a military unit. Note its shield production.

    3. Change city's production to something that isn't a military unit (a worker works.)

    4. Click on each of city's worked tiles, to turn all the laborers into specialists.

    5. Notice that with no laborers, the city is still producing some shields. That isn't right...

    6. Change production back to a military unit.

    7. Reassign all the laborers to tiles (clicking on the city tile works.)

    8. Notice that city is generating more shields than it was in step 2!

    Repeat steps 3-8 as desired and city can have production of shields as high as you want! These shields are real; they will all be credited during the city build step of the turn. This state lasts until something causes the game to recalculate the city's production from zero; usually, changing the size of the city's population triggers this.

    You can reverse the steps to restore the city's shield production to normal (switch to Wealth, assign the laborers, switch to unit, unassign them.)

    The bug is actually that the game doesn't recalculate a city's shield production total when changing between a military unit and something else while in Mobilization. Subtracting shields from the total under normal production, then adding them during war-time production, causes a net increase.

    I've confirmed this in Civ3 1.29f and PTW 1.14f. How in the world hasn't this been known? Does NOBODY ever use War-Time Mobilization?

    Screenshot attached.
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  • #2
    That appears to be a pretty nasty bug! Thanks for sharing it (and you should report the bug to Firaxis via their email bug report instructions, located HERE.)

    Note that they specifically don't want saved games sent in and provide clear report instructions -- I've used it once before and got a quick reply (and the bug was subsequently fixed!).

    Catt

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    • #3
      This is definately a bug that requires a fix as soon as possible!
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      • #4


        wonder if that works in MP
        -Sir T

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        • #5
          Thanks for the heads-up T-Hawk...I've posted a link to this thread on the PTW Democratic game Forum...I wonder how we (in the PTW Diplo game) are going to handle this bit of information.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by ceroomaster


            wonder if that works in MP
            That's what worries me. I can't see why it wouldn't work though...
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            "If God, as they say, is homophobic, I wouldn't worship that God." - Archbishop Desmond Tutu
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Wittlich
              Thanks for the heads-up T-Hawk...I've posted a link to this thread on the PTW Democratic game Forum...I wonder how we (in the PTW Diplo game) are going to handle this bit of information.
              Since Nationalism is required to mobilize, your PTW Demo game opponents wouldn't be able to pull this on you until, what . . . say, April, 2005?

              Catt

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              • #8
                Point taken Catt! However, it still makes me nervous just the same.
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                "If God, as they say, is homophobic, I wouldn't worship that God." - Archbishop Desmond Tutu
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                • #9
                  by T-Hawk
                  ... Does NOBODY ever use War-Time Mobilization?
                  Absolutely not! Well, I'VE never used it anyway...

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                  • #10
                    How do you find out about something like this?


                    Since Nationalism is required to mobilize, your PTW Demo game opponents wouldn't be able to pull this on you until, what . . . say, April, 2005?

                    Catt
                    Ahhh, so by then a patch will be out hopefully
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                    • #11
                      yes, but wouldn't the patch make the save unusable or something? I don't think upgrading mid-game is really a possibility...
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Wittlich
                        That's what worries me. I can't see why it wouldn't work though...
                        It's just the same kind of situation as the infinite production bug that I found... we just have to trust that people won't use it.

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                        • #13
                          I don't know how you caught it but I have to say...that is one great catch T-hawk.

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                          • #14
                            Wow!
                            One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                            • #15
                              Next PTW patch is coming out probably in as little as a week. Report this bug quickly and who knows, they might fix it soon enough.
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