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    Hrungh?! Me no ancient, me feudal!

    Fast question:

    I was under the impression (okay, not impression, it's happened many times) that you needed the following research trees completed to this point to advance to the Feudal/Medieval era:

    Construction
    Currency
    Philosophy
    Code of Laws
    Horseback Riding
    Polytheism

    Leaving OUT:
    Literature
    Map Making
    The Republic
    Monarchy

    Now, the question I have is this.... some games it doesn't advance to the feudal at this point- why?

    I played one game where I had everything but Lit/Map/Republic, still no advance... and even one game where I had everything but Lit/Republic, and had to research Lit to advance!

    What gives? What is the requirement to advance from era to era. I've played loits of games where I didn't need mapmaking, but sometimes I do?
    Friedrich Psitalon
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  • #2
    mapmaking is required all the time.

    look at the techtree in the science advisor, you dont need the ones with little crossed circles on the top right
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    • #3
      FP, do you not accept PMs?

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      • #4
        Perhaps this is related to the roots of a certain civ being a' scientific ' civ or not .I have seen this occur many times but never wanted to dive in for an explaination...until now!
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        • #5
          That's just it- Map Making is *NOT* repeat *NOT* required all the time- I've gone to the feudal era in multiplayer games several times, sans mapmaking. That's why I'm confused.

          I normally don't accept PMs, but I throw the switch to "on," just-a-for-you.
          Friedrich Psitalon
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          • #6
            I know this is OT but I must know

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            Who is quoted in your signature?
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            * If brute force isn't working you are not using enough.
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            • #7
              Gengis Khan(Temujin of the mongols in PTW)
              Don't eat the yellow snow.

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              • #8
                For some reason I thought it was Conan of Cimmeria.
                No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                • #9
                  That's just it- Map Making is *NOT* repeat *NOT* required all the time- I've gone to the feudal era in multiplayer games several times, sans mapmaking. That's why I'm confused.
                  Does it make a difference on which civ's you are playing when this changes??
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                  • #10
                    Were you playing a modded game? I ask because barring a strange bug, it is always a required tech for advancement.
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