Which UU do you think is best?

[Odin]

The Numidian Mercinaries are #1!!!

They are unbeatable on the defensive, respectable on the offensive, and can PILLAGE, PILLAGE, PILLAGE!!! (Ditto Uber's Merc + Great Wall + river analysis )

[monkspider]

I agree, Legions are a much better unit than Gallic Swordsmen. In fact, I would even prefer a regular swordsmen to Gallic Swordsmen, since the latter is prohibitively expensive to the point of absurdity.

[David Murray]

Originally posted by monkspider
I agree, Legions are a much better unit than Gallic Swordsmen. In fact, I would even prefer a regular swordsmen to Gallic Swordsmen, since the latter is prohibitively expensive to the point of absurdity.

When you consider that the Gallic swordsman combines the advantages of both the swordsman and horseman, i.e. strong on the offence and incredibly fast-moving, I think the extra price to pay is worth it especially when the crucial nature of early warfare is taken into consideration.

However, the berserk gets my vote - an attack of 6 and the ability to attack from ships at a time when no one has costal fortresses or defensive units with a defence of more than 4 allows for some serious conquering!

For me - 1. berserk 2. gallic swordsman 3. legion

[CerberusIV]

I like Gallic Swords but that is probably due to editing them to only cost 40 shields - at 50 shields they are too expensive and legions are better value.

Having tried pretty much all the civs over the last few months I keep going back to Samurai - fast, only berserks have a higher attack at that stage of the game and nothing has better defence until riflemen.

[monkspider]

Originally posted by David Murray


When you consider that the Gallic swordsman combines the advantages of both the swordsman and horseman, i.e. strong on the offence and incredibly fast-moving, I think the extra price to pay is worth it especially when the crucial nature of early warfare is taken into consideration.

However, the berserk gets my vote - an attack of 6 and the ability to attack from ships at a time when no one has costal fortresses or defensive units with a defence of more than 4 allows for some serious conquering!

For me - 1. berserk 2. gallic swordsman 3. legion

David, conversely one could argue that the Legion combines the advantages of both the swordsman and pikeman, i.e. strong on the offence and the defence, This is especially important when considering the nature of early warfare.
This is all well and good of course, but the crucial thing here is that the G. Swordsman costs nearly twice as much as the Legion. And in fact, I would go as far as to say that I would prefer 5 regular swordsmen to 3 G. Swordsmen. That's just how absurd I feel that that their price is at present.

[monkspider]

In terms of best overall UU, I would say that the most dominating is the Berserker, with honorable mention being handed to the Immortal and Mounted Warrior, but my favorite is the Numidian Mercenary or Impi.

[SpencerH]

It depends on the style of game and whether its MP or SP. Hoplite for a strict builder, NM for builder/warmonger, anything with 2 movement in ancient times for warmongers (best is impis, then GW, then warchariot, then JW).

Fast movers are the best in MP.

[Mannamagnus]

Sipahi, apart from everything already said: they give a golden age when it is most useful

[King_Henry]

Sipahis or legions. Legions are an all around great unit at the time when I do the most warmongering. Sipahis are great up until tanks come along. Since they're pretty strong and they retreat, Sipahis are good even against infantry. Also, since they're faster than tanks, I might keep a few around until modern armor.

[eloquence]

It definitely seems like this discussion is slanted towards single player but I think that in both that the Mounted Warrior takes the win.

It's the cheapest 3 attack with 2 move and by the time you mass enough of them you can usually take down at least one opponent in single or multiplayer.

[Master Zen]

I am playing a game with Carthage and found the Num. Mercenary to be vital! If you build the great wall it'll practically make you invincible until Knights and Med. Infantry come along.

[Jahi]

i like the extra move of the Gallic Swordsman

[monkspider]

I am a bit perplexed by all of the people in favor of the Sipahi, even the illustrious Warpstorm. To me it seems to suffer from Gallic Swordsman syndrome, too expensive for too little. While it's cost isn't as crippling as the G. Swordsman, it's 8 attack is of little use in a period of 10 defense infantry, who are highly entrenched in cities or metropoli.

[monkspider]

Although, I admit that Warp's strategy of a late middle age army of them would be highly effective. It seems to be a small window of usefulness, and difficult to pull off.

[Jahi]

monkspider, I love your quote! thats to funny!