What the heck! U.N.!??!?!?

[mazzz]

When i build the wonder if I have elections i lose and the game is over, if someelse builds it they win and the game is over?!?!

[aahz_capone]

If you "lose" then someone else technically wins. If they build it and not win then you might have a chance of winning. You survive if no one wins, get it?

I don't think there is ONE person in apolyton who actually LIKES the way the UN works in civ3 (as compared to SMAC or whatever other game you like). It's a cop out and I DARE ANYONE reading this thread to say the actually LIKE it.

If you do I will wilfully submit myself to a harsh beating from Joan d'Arc....

[ACooper]

I like it!!!!!


Can we get a MPEG file of the beating?

[vmxa1]

Just build the UN and never call a vote. Better yet disable diplo win.

[MattH]

Yeah, the UN does sux0r. But what would you suggest to improve it?

[aahz_capone]

MattH, there are a millions things that could improve it, not the least scrapping it and making a new UN wonder that actually does something, anything, diplomatic. Like In SMAC, or at least giving possibilities of new treaties or whatever.

Acooper, I'll get back to you on that.

[FNBrown]

Agreed... the UN could be improved to give you all kinds of other diplomatic advantages without being a game-ending mechanism. I'm kind of disappointed Firaxis didn't do something about it with PTW - these complaints have been around for a while... yet the decided instead to focus on the stock exchange/wall street improvement (wasn't really broken in the first place) and the Internet (a nice idea - but again, not really a big deal).

[WarpStorm]

I agree, it's a lame ending. I especially liked SMAC's UN, but the UN would come too late in the game to be useful.

[joncnunn]

Hum, how about an anti-Wall Street + anti-Hanging Gardens + universial Great Libary?

1. Every turn every governement with > 1000 gold gets 10% gold taken away, those with > 100 gold but less than 1000 gold gets get 2% of their gold taken away. (Amounts doubled if located in one of your cities.)

2. Every tech that the civ in possesion of it has is immedately given for free every turn to every other civ in the game.

3. Causes 3 citizens in the city in which it's owned to become UNHAPPY, and 1 citizen in all other cities of the empire which own it to also become UNHAPPY.
(From the Anti-UN protests)

[aahz_capone]

That would be very realistic, except, um.... why the HELL would I want to build THAT!?

Ofcourse, everybody knows that South Africa rules the world because Kofie Anan is Secretary General.

[CrONoS]

aahz_capone: ....

U.N. Wonder is great, if you're a WarMonger you got to build the U.N. First and say no when they ask you to call the vote. You have to think in the earliest debut of the game what do you want to do.

When someone else build the U.N Wonder and you play the games like a ***** and know you will lose, you got to Nuke the city, Sabotage Production or capture the city where the U.N. is build. It's just add another level of difficulty and more complexity to this game!!!

Nice evening

[Carver]

Until the UN behaves like the SMAC planetary council, I will never build it again.

Originally posted by aahz_capone
Ofcourse, everybody knows that South Africa rules the world because Kofie Anan is Secretary General.

Koffi Annan is from Ghana, but yeah, most Apolytoners agree with you.

[aahz_capone]

er oops...

uh, yeah thats what I meant.

[The Pioneer]

Originally posted by aahz_capone
If you "lose" then someone else technically wins. If they build it and not win then you might have a chance of winning. You survive if no one wins, get it?

I don't think there is ONE person in apolyton who actually LIKES the way the UN works in civ3 (as compared to SMAC or whatever other game you like). It's a cop out and I DARE ANYONE reading this thread to say the actually LIKE it.

If you do I will wilfully submit myself to a harsh beating from Joan d'Arc....

I do! When do we get to see the beating !

Seriously though, I never played SMAC so I can't compare but I have no problem with way it works. As for it being lame you guys are right anything that's peaceful and ends without much commotion is so but that doesn't mean that it's not satisfying!

So long...

[aahz_capone]

Ok, Ok, you guys definately just want to see Joan beat me don't you? You're all sick!




(me too)...


But Ming would kill me if I posted THAT debaucherry here!