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    less desastrous effects of global warming in PTW SP?

    I am under the impression that the effects of global warming are less desastrous under PTW single player.

    I played on a huge map till 2050 (won:!) and had a lot of pollution.

    I did not see once a tile changing for the worse.

    Having played only 3 games, I wonder if this was sheer luck or something else.
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    true that...i have yet to get a tile change due to global warming..

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Minmaster
      true that...i have yet to get a tile change due to global warming..
      how many games did you play?

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        It seems to me it takes a LOT of pollution for global warming to even have a chance of taking effect , and even then its effects are usually minimal - I don't think I've ever seen warming's effects in a city's tile, it always happens off in the boondocks somewhere.
        I've played several games well into the Modern Ages with the world fairly polluted ( Nuclear Weapons? Who, Me?) and never seen warming's effects become devastating - I remember in Civ2 the oceans would rise-yikes! also in civ2 the # of polluted tiles was a detriment to your score...
        In civ3 the only reason I clean up pollution is the negative effect it has on a tile's production ... I'm not cool with 0/0/0 .
        "If you find yourself falling into madness - dive." - Malkavian Proverb.

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          Re: less desastrous effects of global warming in PTW SP?

          Originally posted by georges bonbon
          I am under the impression that the effects of global warming are less desastrous under PTW single player.

          I played on a huge map till 2050 (won:!) and had a lot of pollution.

          I did not see once a tile changing for the worse.

          Having played only 3 games, I wonder if this was sheer luck or something else.
          When you say you had a lot of pollution, what do you mean? Did you have a lot of polluted squares, or were your cities producing a lot of yellow triangles?

          The yellow triangles, nuke usage, and nuke plant meltdowns are what cause global warming.

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          • #6
            I've played a few games to the P-and-P level (pollution and peasants - clean pollution, put peasants manually back on tile). I've had a few squares convert due to warming, even had a jungle convert to grassland saving me the trouble.

            No where near the trouble I saw sometimes in CIV2, mind you.
            Rule 37: "There is no 'overkill'. There is only 'open fire' and 'I need to reload'."
            http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ 23 Feb 2004

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            • #7
              Re: Re: less desastrous effects of global warming in PTW SP?

              Originally posted by Traelin


              When you say you had a lot of pollution, what do you mean? Did you have a lot of polluted squares, or were your cities producing a lot of yellow triangles?

              A lot of polluted squares, which under Civ3 in combination of polluted squares originated by the AI, made a lot of tile change for the worse.

              And so I have the impression that the effects of global warming are less under PTW.

              ??????????????

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              • #8
                Re: Re: Re: less desastrous effects of global warming in PTW SP?

                Originally posted by georges bonbon



                A lot of polluted squares, which under Civ3 in combination of polluted squares originated by the AI, made a lot of tile change for the worse.

                And so I have the impression that the effects of global warming are less under PTW.

                ??????????????
                What I mean is that, if you let the polluted tiles stay polluted for long periods of time, then yeah they can change the terrain value (e.g., Grassland -> Plains). But the global warming degradation (i.e., when you get the message saying, "Global warming has changed into " is ONLY caused by the use of nukes, nuclear plant meltdowns, and the yellow pollution triangles you see in the city display.

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                • #9
                  I *LIKE* the degradation caused by global warming... I mean, it forces you to adapt, adds another challenge. Can you edit the rate of warming in the editor?
                  Brian

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                  • #10
                    Re: Re: Re: Re: less desastrous effects of global warming in PTW SP?

                    Originally posted by Traelin


                    What I mean is that, if you let the polluted tiles stay polluted for long periods of time, then yeah they can change the terrain value (e.g., Grassland -> Plains).
                    That's what I mean and if you have lots of polluted tiles which you cannot clear in a reasonable time, the tiles change for the worse.

                    In CivIII I hab it all the time, now it seems less.

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