Doesn't stink out loud anymore

[CrONoS]

switch:
Ya true, with patch 1.14f, the expansion is pretty better... and with a "maybe" future next patch, the game will work perfectly...

Have a nice day

[Brutus66]

Yes, Coracle, I can't argue with several of your points. They did rip us off in a few ways- the whole limited edition tin thing, putting off mp for an expansion, etc.

Personally I think computer games are very overpriced to begin with. You get a cd that's worth pennies, a pamphlet of a manual (so they can rip you on a "strategy guide") and an oversized box. You don't even get a jewel case for the cd anymore with most games- just a paper sleeve. And to top it all, pushing unfinished products out is getting to be the norm. And don't even get me started with how aggravating CD keys or checks are. One quick trip to Computer Gaming World and they are rendered useless- the only purpose they serve is to inconvenience.

My point in my post was that I think the game, after all the patching, as far as LAN and sp play is concerned, is a lot of fun. The patching should not have been necessary to an extent, but I understand that they would want to tweak some things in accordance with popular demand, so a couple patches I can overlook.

I am not entirely satisfied, and I don't think I ever could be unless I designed the game myself and was able to put in everything I think it needs and changed the rules, etc. to my liking.

Maybe when artificial intelligence is perfected, and computer players acted in a way that was truly logical and reasonable for world leaders...maybe when Civ XXIV is released we might get everything we want and achieve nirvana, but I can't wait that long.

[Brutus66]

Sorry Vondrack, your name just sprang to mind...I should have been more careful (and known better).

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Brutus66
My point in my post was that I think the game, after all the patching, as far as LAN and sp play is concerned, is a lot of fun. The patching should not have been necessary to an extent, but I understand that they would want to tweak some things in accordance with popular demand, so a couple patches I can overlook.

I am not entirely satisfied, and I don't think I ever could be unless I designed the game myself and was able to put in everything I think it needs and changed the rules, etc. to my liking.

Maybe when artificial intelligence is perfected, and computer players acted in a way that was truly logical and reasonable for world leaders...maybe when Civ XXIV is released we might get everything we want and achieve nirvana, but I can't wait that long.

I agree.

Glad you like the game. It will never be perfect, but what is?

[The Templar]

Re: Re: Re: Doesn't stink out loud anymore

Originally posted by Traelin
Fifty dollars is a joke in a capitalist's grand scheme of things. Anyone that has fifty bucks to spend on a game should feel himself/herself fortunate. And for the replayability of Civ 3, fifty bucks is a huge joke. Look at the sales figures and return figures.

How true, how true.

Originally posted by Traelin
Well then you may as well never own a CPU, because you'll never be happy with any OS. Every OS is buggy, regardless of how many patches are released.

Try MacOS X - never had a problem with it (except finding software).

[Coracle]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Doesn't stink out loud anymore

Originally posted by The Templar

Try MacOS X - never had a problem with it (except finding software).

Glad you brought that up. Microsoft has often produced faulty products, one of the worst being that hunk of junk Windows Me. That was fifty dollars right down the toilet.

They didn't tell you upon installing it you have to begin searching the Web for various drivers, downloading them, and installing them. A huge pain. Worse, the company that made my moden had NO driver for Windows Me - and all MS could do was tell me to basically experiment with other drivers! Their customer service stunk out loud, and they made no acceptable offer of compensation.

So Windows Me, also an unstable OS, was a bigger hunk of junk than Civ 3 was a year ago.

I wouldn't care if I paid fifty CENTS for either. I will not quietly accept being ripped off.



BTW, the Diplomatic/Trade AI in Civ 3 still is lousy and braindead.

[Traelin]

Originally posted by cronos_qc
I just really dont think the PTW Single Player worth 30$, otherwise you have money to spend, if yes, please send me money!!!I want to pay my school debt FAST!!

have a nice evening

Hehe no way dude, I'm still paying off my school loans! I understand your frustrations, but for me I'm pleased with the XP. I can understand how MP people are frustrated though.

[Traelin]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Doesn't stink out loud anymore

Originally posted by The Templar
Try MacOS X - never had a problem with it (except finding software).

Damn, you stole my thunder. I was immediately going to jump up and say "Umm, where are you going to find any support for it?"

MacOS X is pretty stable. One of my former managers swore up and down that it was the best thing since sliced bread. But I always found it interesting that he was running Win2K emulators on top of it.

The main problem with Apple was that they had great innovators (except their ahem "borrowing" of Windows-esque OS's from Xerox), but they had idiots for marketers.