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  • #16
    Regent, large world, medium continents, random everything else. I become Greece and I'm stuck on a continent with Carthage, no one else.

    I was intimidated, didn't do an anything rush. Didn't get Great Library, behind in everything ....

    I have a bad feeling about this game, and I don't like Carthage at ALL right now.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by vmxa1
      Any traits can be used to beat the AI, so that one uses AB or BC is not meaningful. Neither is one player using any civ beating another. This is due to start positions and player skills not being equal. This is why anecdotal evidence is not valuable. Just because so and so did or saw such and such does not make it universal.
      finally, someone who makes sense, I was hitting my head on a brick on another forum. Its refreshing to hear this, even tho its not from the same thread.

      I think the Numidian Merc is the real key to making Carthage so much more useful than France. I mean, the Musketeer was pretty, uh, useless is the best word I can think of.

      In the games I've played, I can say that the Num. Merc really helped my empire to expand. I cannot ever recall an instance playing as France where I could say the same about the Musketeer.
      Difference factor IS the musketeer VS numidian. Musketeer is a UU of a Musketmen, already a useless unit since it is twice as costly as it predecessor, the pikemen. and the only advantage is +1/+1... Why would you shell out twice the cost for +1 defense if you can have 2 slightly lesser unit? And to have a UU as that unit on top of that is not helping. Finally adding an attack! a useless trait when most unit defense is creeping toward at least 3 or more really doesnt help.

      While I would prefer to have cheaper Hoplites, If you think of Numidians as a Pikemen UU with +1 attack with same cost its not that bad. And to top of that, you get them MUCH more earlier. We are talking a whole era ahead. Nice.

      HAIL CAESAR! The Romans are the best balanced.....!!
      I'd kinda agree, The best UU IMO is legion and Samurai. they are well balanced and you get most performance for your money...
      :-p

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      • #18
        I am also quite fond of persia's immortal 4/2/1 swordsman.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Chuckles
          The last two games I have played I have been right next to Carthage. They are really pissing me off, even though I end up anahilating them.
          I just drew Egypt on a Random start.
          Guess who the only two neighbors are that I can get to...
          Yep, Greece and Carthage.

          /shudder
          "Just once, do me a favor, don't play Gray, don't even play Dark... I want to see Center-of-a-Black-Hole Side!!! " - Theseus nee rpodos

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          • #20
            The best UU? German Panzers!

            The third movement point is just... great, given their ability to "blitz"...

            Well, okay, they come a little late in the game, but who cares?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by ducki

              I just drew Egypt on a Random start.
              Guess who the only two neighbors are that I can get to...
              Yep, Greece and Carthage.

              /shudder
              excellent.. once I beat the greeks without hardly lifting a finger on one of my games. If you take them out extremly extremly early and bottle them up by occupying their squares, they're pretty much weak and you can move in to finish em whenever you want
              :-p

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