Radar Artillery Is Too Slow!!!

[Zero]

firaxis has never changed unit stats in any of their civ3 patch as far as i am aware. there need to be some serious rebalancing of units, but I expect them not to change anything in PTW either.

while I don't think changing radar artillery mov to 2 is a bad thing and may make the unit more interesting. I am fine with the way radar artilley is right now. Im a big time bomber and Im not too disturbed by it.

[Baggio]

Going by their past record, it would seem so.....

I prefer to play with the original rules so hopefully they will get around to it someday.

[player1]

Originally posted by Theseus
Try the AU Mod.

Try Patch Suggestion MOD.

[monkspider]

Try the Beta Tester Mod located on the PTW disc.

[Zero]

I expected them to do some balancing when ptw would omce out, but i guess firaxis thought it was not necessary, or either they didnt have time.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Calc II
I expected them to do some balancing when ptw would omce out, but i guess firaxis thought it was not necessary, or either they didnt have time.

hi ,

well it all depends what you mean with "balance" , one player wants the artillery to move 3 with a range of 5 , the second player wants a move of 5 and a range of 3 , ......

actually the best is that we all refine the little details ourselfs in the editor

have a nice day

[Swissy]

It appears what you really want is a new unit class, mobile artillery. Mobile artillery would be available at moterized transport. Stats would be 0-0-2/10-2-2. The upgarde would be modern mobile artillery, available at synthetic fibers. Stats would be 0-0-3/14-2-2. These units would be used to push the attack along with the armor/inf and MA/MI respectively.

Radar artillery should be left as it is, as mostly a defensive unit/city reducer. Perhaps an extension of the range would be in order, to say 3 or 4, to justify its appearance so far down the tech table.

[Swissy]

Another consideration is how the AI will uses a land unit that moves and bombards in the same turn. Right now only naval units have that ability, all land bombard units have a one movement.

[player1]

I think that just move 2, needs Oil and Rubber would be OK.

Things like move of 3 (which means move 2 tiles and then bomb), are just unbalancing.

[Jaybe]

Originally posted by player1
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Things like move of 3 (which means move 2 tiles and then bomb), are just unbalancing.

ESPECIALLY considering that the AI doesn't use artillery en masse in the first place...

[Panag]

Originally posted by Jaybe

ESPECIALLY considering that the AI doesn't use artillery en masse in the first place...

hi ,

, it depends at what level you play , and one way to let them make use of it is to let them capture some of yours , then the AI really makes use of them , .....

have a nice day

[alva]

I have yet to see a game where the AI uses artillery en masse/intelligent. So making it a move 2 unit, is IMHO very unballancing.

But hey, everybody is free to (mis)use the editor as they see fit

[player1]

On the other hand, with move of 1 they are pretty much useless.

I mean it's it better to buy 50% more basic Arties and get much better hitting chance.

3 Arties is better then 2 RAs