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    I've been playing single-player with multiple regicide mode. I'm wondering if anybody has been using their kings to explore the terrain around them.

    So far, I haven't had any trouble. I've lost at most two of my seven kings to barbarians, but usually none of them. In fact, I've been able to use my kings to hunt down barbarian encampments.

    I'm still keeping a couple of my kings in my capital, just to be safe. But no AI players have tried to knock off my kings during the early game when I'm wondering around. By the time the ancient age is in full swing, I pull them back to my cities and have a great map.

    Anybody else try this? What about in multiplayer?

  • #2
    It sounds a bit risky dont ya think.

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    • #3
      No problems so far.

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      • #4
        Now that's a slick idea!
        I think the next Huge game I start I will contemplate that as a reason to play Multiple Regicide.

        A Question:
        With Regicide, you lose the game if all your kings are captured, but can you still win the game through another means (Domination, Culture, Space Race)? If so, then this could be a significant single player 'cheat' . It should probably be fixed in a later patch with the barbarians and AI keeping an eye out for and chasing down unescorted Kings.
        ---- "What gunpowder did for war, Blake has done for the AI" - Diadem ----

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        • #5
          I do the same. Even to a limited extent on single regicide.

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          • #6
            I've used this tactic before ... i've maybe lost 2 kings per game to barbs but no more than that.

            Once I find an enemy I usually take one or two kings to it and do a slave raid on their workers... quick way to gain 2 workers and since your kings are fast you can usually pull them out without any problems ... and if your opponent manages to use chariots or horsemen to get his workers back, so what? their jobs were canned for X number of turns and it forces your opponent to react to your moves, not vice versa, and thats always a good thing...

            Cheers
            ~Thadalex
            "Nothing exists except atoms and empty space; everything else is opinion"
            -Democritus of Abdera

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            • #7
              FYI, Same idea works really well in Galactic Battlegrounds and Age of Empires II.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kwpulliam1973

                A Question:
                With Regicide, you lose the game if all your kings are captured, but can you still win the game through another means (Domination, Culture, Space Race)? If so, then this could be a significant single player 'cheat' . It should probably be fixed in a later patch with the barbarians and AI keeping an eye out for and chasing down unescorted Kings.
                No, you can't win another way if you lose by either Regicide option: Game Over, you lost. In Regicide, if your King dies, you lose the game; in Mass Regicide, all your Kings have to die. If you are playing with both Regicides enabled, then when your first King dies, you lose the game. So, no need to worry about this being a cheat.

                I have lost a couple of King Units to Barbarians by exploring. The big WARNING is that if you have (regular) Regicide enabled, with or without Mass Regicide, and you lose one (1) King, then you lose the game.

                I do explore with them in SP; in MP, the other players would know to hunt down your exploring Kings and kill them off. In MP, they will be a target if they are exploring.

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                • #9
                  I've been doing this to a limited to degree in (single) regicide mode. Kings can outrun barbarians, so as long as you have a full tile in each direction surronding your king within view, than it's safe to do, at least until you've built a few explorers/warriors to do the job safer.
                  "Perseus wore a magic cap so that the monsters he hunted might not see him. We draw the magic cap down over our own eyes and ears so as to deny that there are any monsters" - Karl Marx

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                  • #10
                    Hmm,
                    I guess I didn't phrase my question clear enough....

                    If I play Multiple Regicide, and I do not lose any/all of my kings, (And at least one other civ retains some/all of it's kings) can I 'Win' through the space race or other means?
                    ---- "What gunpowder did for war, Blake has done for the AI" - Diadem ----

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                    • #11
                      Yes, you can.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kring
                        I have lost a couple of King Units to Barbarians by exploring. The big WARNING is that if you have (regular) Regicide enabled, with or without Mass Regicide, and you lose one (1) King, then you lose the game.
                        Yeah. Good safety tip. Thanks, Egon.

                        (...and if you're dumb enough to have both selected, do NOT fortify a king unit in jungle terrain since your entire civilization hinges on whether or not that unit catches the plague. No, I won't tell you why I know that.)
                        |"Anything I can do to help?" "Um. Short of dying? No, can't think of a |
                        | thing." -Morden, Vir. 'Interludes and Examinations' -Babylon 5 |

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sinapus
                          Yeah. Good safety tip. Thanks, Egon.

                          (...and if you're dumb enough to have both selected, do NOT fortify a king unit in jungle terrain since your entire civilization hinges on whether or not that unit catches the plague. No, I won't tell you why I know that.)

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                          • #14
                            Speaking of regicide, is the AI have any sense that kings are the target? Or will it treat them like any other unit, and thus make regicide only playable in MP?
                            I AM.CHRISTIAN

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Switch
                              Speaking of regicide, is the AI have any sense that kings are the target? Or will it treat them like any other unit, and thus make regicide only playable in MP?
                              Dunno. Would make life... interesting when nukes come into play. (Best keep some security up and running to keep them from finding your king locations...)
                              |"Anything I can do to help?" "Um. Short of dying? No, can't think of a |
                              | thing." -Morden, Vir. 'Interludes and Examinations' -Babylon 5 |

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