Reasons to buy Play the World

[Zero-Tau]

Originally posted by woody
There are many "fan boys" here who steadfastly assert that the $30 they spent on a broken game is well worth it. This is a classic example of how humans will support something, rather than admit they made a mistake and got ripped off. Cognitive dissonance at work!

Has it ever occured to you that some people may actually like PtW?

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: If they enjoy the game, how can their $30 be wasted?

[woody]

Originally posted by Zero-Tau
Has it ever occured to you that some people may actually like PtW?

No, they like Civ3. PtW is broken. It's a multiplayer add-on.

I've said this before, and I'll say it again: If they enjoy the game, how can their $30 be wasted?

It's wasted because they're not getting what was advertized. A way to "Play the World" (as in multiplayer).

If I barfed in a bag, and you paid me $30 for it but still liked it, is it still money well spent?

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by woody
If I barfed in a bag, and you paid me $30 for it but still liked it, is it still money well spent?

Yes.

"like" is an opinion. If I paid 30 for your barf and was satisfied, then why should anything else matter? Why should your opinions about the value of the puke matter, so long as I'm happy?

"money well spent" is not an objective term, as much as you would like it to be.

[woody]

Originally posted by Traelin
Well aren't those the only people that should be commenting on it in the first place? I mean it's like someone who's never played baseball say something like, "Man, it's really easy to hit a 90-mph curve." The people who have the most insight are those people that own the game, not the bystanders.

Did you even read what I wrote? I said I wanted to see a review from someone who didn't pay the rip-off price of $30. If they either got it free (like review mags do), or pirated it, then they wouldn't be so embarrased. They could post a review without trying to convince others to be ripped-off as well.

I'm simply trying to take the cognitive dissonance out of the equation. It's like a controlled study, if you wish.

My bet is that if you took a group of people who wanted to buy PtW, and gave half of them free copies and the other half paid $30, then the guys that got free copies would post more honest (and critical) reviews.

[woody]

Originally posted by asleepathewheel
Yes.

"like" is an opinion. If I paid 30 for your barf and was satisfied, then why should anything else matter? Why should your opinions about the value of the puke matter, so long as I'm happy?

"money well spent" is not an objective term, as much as you would like it to be.

Actually, it is. You could buy a loaf of bread for $2 and puke in a bag yourself. You'd save $28.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by woody


Actually, it is. You could buy a loaf of bread for $2 and puke in a bag yourself. You'd save $28.

Ah, but I was paying the 30 for YOUR vomit. Which is different.

[Zero-Tau]

Originally posted by woody
It's wasted because they're not getting what was advertized.

Some people are satisfied with less than what was advertised. Some people bought PtW solely for the Single Player improvements. Most of them seems to be happy with the product. Why complain about broken MP when you aren't going to play MP in the first place?

[Maquiladora]

woody is right, that no matter how much you like it (and congrats to you for doing that), it wasnt worth the price in todays PC games market, for what it did, end of. Some people will always defend their own stupidity, naivety, call it what you want, while others just blame someone else, mostly Firaxis or Infogrammes.

Ive seen someone buy a toilet seat for £300, doesnt mean they dont think its worth it, but its still just an overpriced toilet seat to the rest of us.

[Cyclotron]

Lie: Somehow, us "fanboys" are deluded into liking the game... thus everyone who doesn't like it knows the real "truth" about the game. As our good buddy woody says, "thank God there are "whiners" here to tell the truth."

Ah yes. Verily, I have deluded myself into liking this game. The hours I have spent enjoying it are actually not worth it, because indeed I have only been hypnotized by Firaxis into enjoying it. Oh, woe is me, I need the holy truth of yon whiners to show me the light...

Get off it. If people like the game, that is as truthful as your complaints. Why, pray tell, does the fact that you hate it mean that it is undesirable for everyone else? I dont care what I pay 30 bucks for... if I like it, it's worth it.

[asleepathewheel]

What is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good.. do we need anyone to tell us these things?

[Argos65987]

Originally posted by Maquiladora
no matter how much you like it (and congrats to you for doing that), it wasnt worth the price in todays PC games market, for what it did, end of. Some people will always defend their own stupidity, naivety, call it what you want, while others just blame someone else, mostly Firaxis or Infogrammes.

Ive seen someone buy a toilet seat for £300, doesnt mean they dont think its worth it, but its still just an overpriced toilet seat to the rest of us.

opinion is not fact

subjective is not the same as objective

The reason these threads and arguments go on so long is that no one seems to understand what the definition is of some of these words.

[player1]

Originally posted by woody


No, they like Civ3. PtW is broken. It's a multiplayer add-on.

Correction: MP was broken. With patch it's FIXED.

Still not perfect and flawless, but NOT broken anymore.

FIXED, but not perfect.
And NOT broken.
Got it?

[Cyclotron]

Uhhh... if you like it, it was worth it. Apparently, some here don't seem to grasp the fact that because PTW wasn't worth it to them, that doesn't mean it wasn't worth it to everyone else.

Argos hit it on the nail.

[WarpStorm]

You've got it right, cyclotron7. It's a matter of taste. I like it. It's easily worth $30 to me. But, it's a matter of taste. I love bleu cheese. My wife hates it. I'd gladly pay $30 dollars for a good moldy slice of Danish import. Mmmm... My wife just thinks that it's just plain disgusting and wouldn't pay a cent for it. It's a matter of taste. She won't convince me that I hate bleu cheese. The whiners won't convince me that I don't like PTW and that it isn't worth it to me. Or Stilton...mmmm...or Gorgonzola...mmm...

[SirOsis]

Ah but what if you bought a huge package labeled "Danish bleu cheese" thinking you're getting a lot of a quality cheese but when you open the package all you see is a shriveled crumb of cheese the size of your fingernail with a bit of mold growing on the side.

Would you pop it in your mouth and savor it for 1 second or question why you didn't get what you paid for?