Crashing Multiplayer? - Info on Firewalls, Routers and Proxies

[Panag]

Originally posted by isak
I have XDSL and my dynamic ip is updated every 30 minutes - it isn't giving me any problems

I know that a lot of people experience crashes, but that doesn't mean it's the same error. The same error message can be caused by a number of unrelated things. And vice versa, the same problem can trigger a number of different error messages.

And yes, basic PC skills are easily achieved, but you can not by looking at the computer tell whether your TCP/IP protocol is broken, your Windows Registry is corrupt, your Winsock is outdated, your Infrared devices are bugging your Ethernet Adapter, your Internal Modem is interfering with your Client program or your Printer server is trying to take your PC's IP adress.... and that's just for starters.

If PC's were simple, I'd be unemployed today, so I thank god they're not

After Direct IP has been introduced, I guess it would be possible to throw Arcade out, but they've already made a deal with Gamespy, and besides, not everyone is comfortable handing out their own IP adress just to play a game. (re: the invention of firewalls btw.). Heck, some people even seem to enjoy hanging out in the Gamespy lobby. Peace be with that.

If you only have problems when you try to use Gamespy, you either need to find out why, or stop using Gamespy - pretty straightforward, and not something we should expect Infogrames to break a contract over, is it?

hi ,

Xdsl is an abreviation for all types of dsl , the X just sits there to mention any dsl , so how is that you have Xdsl

have a nice day

[isak]

Well, you used it first, so I didn't want to confuse you by saying that I have Adsl

And why is it you quoted my entire post but only responded to the fact that I ignored your acronym confusion

[SMIFFGIG]

hi ,

i have ADSL but would love VDSL (as if)

have a nice day

[Panag]

Originally posted by isak
Well, you used it first, so I didn't want to confuse you by saying that I have Adsl

And why is it you quoted my entire post but only responded to the fact that I ignored your acronym confusion

hi ,

why not

its confusing when you forget to say what Xdsl you have

even more when you say you have "Xdsl" , ....... and forget to say what should go instead of "X"

allas , have a nice day

[isak]

Is it so confusing you were unable to read the rest of my post, or only confusing enough to make you forget your presumably clever answers

Anyway, you originally wrote (and I quote):

some people who have Xdsl get an dynamic ip like every so many minutes or whatever , thats a problem

So you were the one who originally stated that all types of DSL were presumably affected by this problem, so why should I bother to specify which type of DSL I have??

Get back on topic and post descriptions of your problems, or find another thread to troll, thanks.

[Panag]

Originally posted by isak
Is it so confusing you were unable to read the rest of my post, or only confusing enough to make you forget your presumably clever answers

Anyway, you originally wrote (and I quote):



So you were the one who originally stated that all types of DSL were presumably affected by this problem, so why should I bother to specify which type of DSL I have??

Get back on topic and post descriptions of your problems, or find another thread to troll, thanks.

hi ,

ahem , no need to get personal , ...... "thanks"

have a nice day

[Rusty Nail]

Problem being seen.

Has anyone seen this one? I have ADSL with Norton Personal Firewall (no NAT as I understand) and gave permission to open all ports for Gamespy as requested. I can join a game and it works fine with minimal lag. But when I try to host I am invisible. Is it possible I am doing something wrong in the setup phase? I think I have tried every possible variant with a patient partner, but nothing seems to work. To be seen should it be enough to hit "host" and do nothing else (i.e. not even check the "ready" button on the right of the new screen)? Or do you have to hit the "ready" button. Or do you have to hit the "Ready" buton AND the "launch" button to be seen? Nothing seems to work for me. What could possibly be going wromng here?

[Rusty Nail]

By the way, I cannot see any chat on the staging screen after I hit "host". Is this not an error? I can see it on the original multiplayer screen.

[isak]

It possibly because NPF is only set to allow the game (and DirectPlay) access to the internet, but isn't set to allow them to act as servers.

I'm getting a bit rusty on NPF, so I'm not sure how to go about setting that up, but let me know if you can't find it, I know a few NPF supporters who will probably help out

[Panag]

Re: Problem being seen.

Originally posted by Rusty Nail
Has anyone seen this one? I have ADSL with Norton Personal Firewall (no NAT as I understand) and gave permission to open all ports for Gamespy as requested. I can join a game and it works fine with minimal lag. But when I try to host I am invisible. Is it possible I am doing something wrong in the setup phase? I think I have tried every possible variant with a patient partner, but nothing seems to work. To be seen should it be enough to hit "host" and do nothing else (i.e. not even check the "ready" button on the right of the new screen)? Or do you have to hit the "ready" button. Or do you have to hit the "Ready" buton AND the "launch" button to be seen? Nothing seems to work for me. What could possibly be going wromng here?

hi ,

disable norton , better yet , trow it out

have a nice zonealarm day

[Acererak]

Originally posted by Asterothe
I used to play PTW without poblem till
I got a router. (linksys) Even after that
I was able to join games and play. But now
most of the times I cannot even join games.
yeterday I didi once , all the rest I was told to
open ports. I am using default
settings for LinkSys. What should I do?

I host Direct IP games behind a Linksys router without any problems at all. You just have to open up the proper ports as mentioned in the readme.txt file that comes with the 1.14f patch.

To "open" up the proper ports, I use port forwarding.

• Jot down the IP address of your computer. You can obtain this by opening up a command prompt and typing "ipconfig". The IP address will be 192.168.1.xxx.


• Log onto your Linksys router.


• Click on the 'Advanced' tab.


• Click on Forwarding. Here is where you forward the ports specified in the readme.txt file.


• The Ext. Port column lists the External Ports (those on your router) that you want to forward to your computer. You can put in a range or specific port numbers. (Obtained from the readme.txt depending on if you're hosting or using direct IP or Gamespy).


• Check both the TCP and UDP check boxes if you are unsure about the specific protocol being utilized.


• In the IP Address column, you want to fill in the 'xxx' from your IP address you noted above.


• Next, check the 'Enable' checkboxes for each port forwarded. (For security, you should uncheck the 'Enable' checkboxes when you're done playing. THe next time you want to play you can simply recheck these boxes)


• Finally, click apply.

e.g. Since I host Direct IP games, I open the following ports:
2302 (TCP and UDP)
6500 (TCP and UDP)
13139 (UDP)

That's all there is too it.

[Panag]

hi ,

with C&C firestorm its not needed to open those , .......

no ports should be open , do you want to give your carkeys to the guy at the bar when you go for a swim , no , they could have thought about this when they made it , .....

have a nice day

[isak]

@Panag:

This is from Westwood's own Support pages -

Tiberian Sun does not support NAT... Network Address Translating is commonly used when Sharing Internet connections, through Windows Internet Connection Sharing (ICS), or programs like Sygate. If you have Internet Connection Sharing enabled, you will need to enable ports 1234 and 1140 on your host machine as well. ICS is a feature installed on some Windows 98 networks sharing a single computer's Internet connection across multiple machines.

To allow Tiberian Sun to run through a proxy server or firewall, you must enable UDP traffic through ports 5400 and 4000. If you run ICQ, make sure it is closed before running Tiberian Sun online (because ICQ also uses port 4000).

If it is, you will need to enable some ports to UDP traffic in order to communicate with Westwood Online. Ports 1234, 1235, 1236, and 1237 should allow UDP traffic.

Also, ports 7000, 7001, 7002, 3840, 4005 and 4995 will need to be opened for all TCP traffic.

If you do not know how to configure your firewall, please consult your firewall documentation, contact your system administrator, or contact your Internet service provider.

The quote is from

this page

Even though the Above text only says Tiberian Sun, it can be seen on the page that the info applies to Tiberian Sun: Firestorm too.

So, you're wrong again. Have a nice day.

[Panag]

Originally posted by isak
@Panag:

This is from Westwood's own Support pages -



The quote is from

this page

Even though the Above text only says Tiberian Sun, it can be seen on the page that the info applies to Tiberian Sun: Firestorm too.

So, you're wrong again. Have a nice day.

hi ,

hey , read again , and then you shall see the wrong versus right ; they could have worked on something that does not need the opening of certain ports , is that clear or not

they could have worked and fixed this a long time ago , ......

also those ports from C&C work without a problem behind zonealarm pro , ....... if you download the update of course , but since you cant play without getting it , .....

have a nice day

[isak]

Originally posted by panag
hey , read again , and then you shall see the wrong versus right ; they could have worked on something that does not need the opening of certain ports , is that clear or not

No, that's not very clear I'm afraid - a firewall blocks traffic to and from your computer - a game played over internet needs to generate traffic to and from your computer. If you want to play the game, you need to disable parts of your firewall. There is absolutely no way to avoid this - not for any game or any firewall.

they could have worked and fixed this a long time ago , ......

The problem was solved a long time ago, and the solution is simple - disable your software firewalls, and disconnect the hardware firewalls - then, and only then will they no longer give you problems (i.e. require setup) playing games over the internet

also those ports from C&C work without a problem behind zonealarm pro , ....... if you download the update of course , but since you cant play without getting it , .....

They work behind the non-pro edition of ZoneAlarm too, if you remember to give the required programs access to the internet and possibly allow some as servers too. The fact that they do, is not through brilliance of the game developers, but only the (allegded) brilliance of the firewall programmers.