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    Has anyone heard what the manual for PTW will be like? How big? Contents?

    I like big, fat manuals - like Civ3's.

    sboog

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    I doubt if it'll be as fat, as PTW is an expansion.
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    • #3
      I think it will just be about 20-30 pages as its not like they made a new game. Unless they decide to add the information of the new civilizations into the manual.

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      • #4
        Yeah, they would naturally assume that you have the original manual. They would only have to put the new and changed features.
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        • #5
          I'd welcome a simple readme.txt on the CD when this makes PTW a little bit cheaper...

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          • #6
            Caliban: agreed
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            • #7
              it doesn't matter as in 2-3 months it will probably be largely useless and out dated like the current civ 3 manual.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cidifer
                it doesn't matter as in 2-3 months it will probably be largely useless and out dated like the current civ 3 manual.
                I understand is not a good move against piracy, but we should have at least a corrected .PDF file updated manual with every patch that change game rules, features or stats.

                Wandering thru a paper manual and four .txt of changes (one for every patch and the PTW expansion) is not exactly really easy for me. The on-line Civilopedia is not deep and detailed enough to help with game details and advanced strategies, IMHO.

                I appreciate the effort made to have Civ III help sensible to the context, but it seems to me more tailored to aid first time users that help advanced player at higher levels.
                "We are reducing all the complexity of billions of people over 6000 years into a Civ box. Let me say: That's not only a PkZip effort....it's a real 'picture to Jpeg heavy loss in translation' kind of thing."
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                • #9
                  I would like a manual as PtW has lots of changes and it would help to have proper explanations of all; the MP stuff instead of figuring out for yourself.

                  But yeah, they become outdated fast. A shame, because I loved having big fat manuals.

                  I think the civilopedia, online or not, should hold much of the things that FIRAXIS forgets to put into the manual, like chances of promotion, barbarian hut mechanisms, unit tables, basically all the stuff we come here for.

                  And am I the only one who felt disapointed by the lack of information about techs compared to SMAC for example? In SMAC (and civ2 if I recal) there were descriptions of the science and interesting historical facts. In civ you just get chemistry, and thats it, move on to the next. OK, not many people don't know what chemistry is, I grant you that, but you get the idea... Only the civs themselves got very detailed (and very well made too) descriptions. Not even the wonders got histrical descriptions. It seems that we are all supposed to know the history of The Great Wall, or not care.

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                  • #10
                    I agree. I loved the descriptions in the original Civ and Civ2. The ones in SMAC was alright, but I liked the ones in Civ better... The historical quotes was good, though.
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                    • #11
                      The Manuel is approximately 3X6 inches and 65 pages long. Isn't a manuel in comparison to the original one. Just gives the usual heads up about installation, credits and the new material.

                      Cory

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                      • #12
                        it is very sad for the fact that the game boxes are smaller these days.....which means smaller manuals; this only encourages pirate CDs (i know few students that do this to earn some money). Many people buy the original games at full price because of a good detailed manual.

                        And believe me, im the one who complains that Homm3 and Aok manuals for its incompleteness; which means that SMAC and Civ2 manuals are.......well fairly worse (less complete) i mean come on people! any game that forces u to buy "official strategy guides" for basic information (such as how war wearliness really works in case in Civ3) is a clear sign that they are putting more emphazis on marketing rather than custumer sastisfaction.

                        So, i hope that Ptw will at least have a more detailed manual (tip: more number charts)

                        I will vote by not purchasing Ptw if i hear that Ptw is bad as Civ3 was.
                        someone teach me baduk

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                        • #13
                          Ya the box was pretty barren when I opened it. A small 'manual' and a cd not even in a jewel case, just paper like cd's you get with your motherboard.

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                          • #14
                            When you opened the box Chuckles, did you hear tumbleweed blowing by?
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                            • #15
                              Cool manuals is a way to kill pirates, but another way is what blizzard does, you need an original CD if you want to play online on battle.net . seems like this is the best working way yet. That Firaxis isn't making some kind of civMP serverthingy kills their chance at catching pirates.

                              I can understand that the PtW CD coms in a paper envelope (civ3 had the same) because those origianl CD holders break easily and I chuck them frequently because I have all my CDs in a big ass holder. Those DVD styl cd holders, though, they are worth keeping.

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