spec op insertions

[HazieDaVampire]

You know them new gurilla units, anybody think you should be able to sneak them in using nuclear subs? And normal subs too!

Infact anybody got any other good ideas about inserting this unit into enemy terrortory!?

[zulu9812]

you could give them the inivisible flag

[werdhertz]

i DEFFINITLY think they should be able to be inserted by Submarine, it would be nice if instead of generic submarine and nuclear submarine, Firaxis had used Fast Attack and Boomer.

[HazieDaVampire]

that also brings me to another idea, helping spys, like a Gurilla squad securing the spy at a checkpoint or somthing!

I don't really think this idea is very good, but maby with some revision we can come up with an idea!

Seems better than "our spy has been caught and killed, Mao is not happy"
"Why the **** was he caught, couldn't we of done somthing for him?"

[HazieDaVampire]

Anybody seen that film 'navy seals', its a load of bull, the story line and all, but i like the bit when they are inserted by the sub!

[Cidifer]

Never seen that movie how old is it? it sounds kind of familiar like it came out in the 80's or am I thinking of a totally different movie?

[CiverDan]

I don't like the idea of units on subs. We are not talking about one guerrilla here (i.e. rambo), we are talking about many units acting together. Submarines have never been used as unit platform for the simple reason there is not enough room to hold adequate units for a assault. Name me one battle which involved launching ground units from a submarine.

[HazieDaVampire]

the movie has charlie shean in it!
and you could easily launch a 5 man squad from a sub.

In that film they had some thing mounted onto the hull of the sub that they used for somthing, i cant remember what.

[Terser]

I would like to see the guerrilla unit replace barbarians in the late game such as we had in Civ2. You could therefore have guerrilla uprisings in Democracies and Communist socities if enough people were unhappy in your cities (or if your overall approval rating is too low--not sure how linked those two actually are).

And of course, I would like to see the return of some kind of partisan system (again, as in Civ2). Perhaps guerrillas could be used in this manner. Take an enemy city and X number of guerrillas spawn depending on the city size and difference in government and/or culture between the conqueror and the conquered.

[AlecTrevylan00]

i made marines hidden nationalities and invisible, so they could go in deep, but i added a unit, counter-intelligence operative, who could see invisible

[HazieDaVampire]

by the way, hidden nationalities negates invisible, people tryed it with subs and just found them useless cuz the subs could no longer hide!

[Cidifer]

In that film they had some thing mounted onto the hull of the sub that they used for somthing, i cant remember what.

Now keep in mind I'm no navy seal expert (but I am related to one ) I think your that's some kind of depressurization chamber and if I remember correctly the process is called "locking out." However this is only for a small squad (maybe 8 people, 12 at most), my guess is a guerrela squad is probably supposed to be larger then that (25, 50, or 100) but maybe this is something that you could make a UU for. I added the Seals as an american unit once (marine only with a few extra things), I'm not sure if theres any way in the editor to restrict all units except for 1 from getting on a transport, anyone know for sure?

[miccofl]

Using the "foot unit/foot units only" attributes would be the easiest way to go.

[HazieDaVampire]

but then you would be able to put infantry and marines onto the subs!

[miccofl]

So remove the attribute from them, the only unit presently using the foot units only attribute is the helicopter and having sepc-ops inserted by chopper is a bit closer to reality than inserting an infantry or marine brigade by one.