"Opposition To Arabs"

[ranskaldan]

No one would dispute the validity of a Chinese civ, yes?

Yet, from the perspective of "race and ethnicity", the Chinese race is certainly not a homogeneous race. the northern elements are very influenced by Mongol, Turkic, and Tibetan elements, while the south is pretty much Sinicized Tai-Kadai tribes. How much of the original Shang Chinese blood still flow in modern Chinese? I don't know, but there's certainly not much.

In fact, a Chinese from Guangzhou is probably closer in genetics to a Thai, than to a Chinese from Beijing.

But why then is there no opposition to a Chinese civ?

It's because there is absolutely no way a Chinese from Guangzhou would ever identify with a Thai. Psychologically, culturally, linguistically, historically, in every way other than genetics, the Chinese nation is unified.

So, now to Arabs:

The original ancestors of the modern Arabs, in addition to the original Arabs of Medina, are the Berbers, Egyptians, Syrians, Phoenicians, Akkadians, Assyrians, even Sumerians and so on and on.

Yet, genetics and original "ancestry" aside, the Arab nation has a conscious idea of itself, as an ethnic, linguistic, and cultural entity.

So, why should there be any opposition to the Arab civ? Where would that come from?

[roalan]

Arabs

I agree with Ozymandias those "Arabs" live in all those areas but ,depending on the country, they are NOT native to the some countries mentioned ,even if they lived there for 100's of years. Just like the Pilgrams came here 400 years ago but they are NOT native americans. That is all I am saying . Only the American Indian is a native American.If some of the American Indians went to Greece and lived there for 500 -1000 years they would not be native to Greece they would be Americans living in Greece. In your way of thinking an Arab from say Arabia wpould be a Semite if he lived in Israel for 100's of years,it would not. So why do you say If an Israeli lived in Arabia for centures all of a sudden he would be an Arab? This is an example of your thoughts I realize you did not use an Israeli as an example.

[gsmoove23]

What did my ancestors just spring from the Earth in Ireland at some point?! Is it N. Ireland or the Republic of, Donegal or County Clare or maybe just everybody is a native of Africa. Hey lets all move back and get down to our roots.

I'm a native of Staten Island, New York, even though my great grandpa came over on a boat, irrespective of all the sketchy dealings with the "Native" Americans/First People/Indians/Mohegans or whatever and yes any Jewish child born in Israel of emigrees to that land is a native to that land which makes issues of redressing past injustices all that more thorny.

I don't think there has been any more dangerous or bloody creation in human minds then the idea of some mystical "connection" to a certain plot of land. I'll put that above religion or race.

[Traelin]

Originally posted by gsmoove23
What did my ancestors just spring from the Earth in Ireland at some point?! Is it N. Ireland or the Republic of, Donegal or County Clare or maybe just everybody is a native of Africa. Hey lets all move back and get down to our roots.

I'm a native of Staten Island, New York, even though my great grandpa came over on a boat, irrespective of all the sketchy dealings with the "Native" Americans/First People/Indians/Mohegans or whatever and yes any Jewish child born in Israel of emigrees to that land is a native to that land which makes issues of redressing past injustices all that more thorny.

I don't think there has been any more dangerous or bloody creation in human minds then the idea of some mystical "connection" to a certain plot of land. I'll put that above religion or race.

I couldn't have said it better myself. Although you have to allow for naturalized citizens as well.

[gsmoove23]

Yes of course, naturalized citizens too. I was actually born in Decatur, Illinois but NYC is my homeland. I'm afraid when I read it now it sounds like ranting. Should have thrown some smilies in.