New Gamespy Preview

[jim_steer]

Incase anyone hasn't seen it.

http://www.gamespy.com/previews/october02/civ3ptw/

[aahz_capone]

I read the review, very cool, some conformations, but I didn't realize the Celts are mil/exp. I can't remember a huge Celtic Empire in my history classes, where as thier clone-civ mongols (also mil/exp) did. Can someone correct me or did firaxis just not think the other traits were celtic enough?

And I don't get something, do the radar towers not only up your defence but give you 2 square vision? So an outpost would only be worth it on a hill or mountian? and you build an outpost and radar tower on the same square? I assume not.

[jim_steer]

The celts ruled A fair bit of Europe (well Britain, France and Germany) before the romans turned up. There have been a few posts on this forum that give some great links to celtic history sites and arguments about their attributes.

Hopefully outpost will just be a hybrid of the radar tower and the fortress but without the 2 square radius area of effect. I am not too sure about this and I dont remember seeing any posts explaining exactly what they are.

[WarpStorm]

Originally posted by aahz_capone
And I don't get something, do the radar towers not only up your defence but give you 2 square vision? So an outpost would only be worth it on a hill or mountian? and you build an outpost and radar tower on the same square? I assume not.

An outpost can be built in ancient times, a Radar Tower is late Industrial. A Radar Tower also increases attack.

[WarpStorm]

An outpost just increases visibility 2, 3 or 4 spaces depending on the terrain (and keeps barbs at bay since they won't build camps anywhere visible).

[The diplomat]

I have to admit that I am bit concerned with the new UU's. I hope they will be well balanced compared to the already existing units.

[aahz_capone]

hmmmm.... yes, the conquistadors will wreak havoc left right and center with their scout type movement. (crossing 6 mountian sqaures in one turn!!!!)

But I'm confident that Firaxis will make the UU's expensive enough. The question is, can finance have THAT much impact? Or do they have to make it so expensive that by the time you finish making one unit it is out of date?

[Randolph]

Does anyone know exactly when PTW is coming out?

[FrustratedPoet]

I don't think we do, no.

The Firaxis guys always say "Soon." when we ask them, but nothing has been annnounced, which is a little odd.

When it is announced, though, Apolyton will be one of the first places to carry the news, so keep watching this space.

(Can I have my endorsement fee now Markos? )

[aahz_capone]

I know that in europe it's out 22 nv. I think i USA on the 23 oct.

[jim_steer]

I love the way software companies release games in Europe about a month after the US it just encorages piracy. Suppose I have to go on alt.binaries.cd.image.games around the 23 of October then. I will probably buy PTW when it comes out here but i am buggered if i am waiting a month longer for it.

[WarpStorm]

I'd be shocked if it was out in the states on the 23rd of October. EB Games is saying the 30th, and I've never known them to be later than the real release date (earlier, yes).

[jim_steer]

It would have to go gold today or likely last week if they were going to make the 23rd.

[Buster13]

I thought release wasn't supposed to be until November, not that it wouldn't be a welcome surprise if it came earlier....

I always thought of the celts as more Mil/Rel...I mean, they did build Stonehenge...if you consider the Druids part of the Celtic society or culture...or am I forgetting my history?

It looks like a good expansion, though...I'm particularly pleased to see that you will no longer be stuck on your diplomacy screen with only 8 civs when there is 16 in the game.

[Nyl]

Didn't I read somewhere you can have 24 civs in the game at the same time with the expansion?