To be honest, I don't know if I'll buy PTW

[Caliban]

Originally posted by I am Ruler
Plus i hav all the time in the world excluding study time and sleep time

Time is not the problem... Money is. Some people don't want to pay for features that should already have been included in the original version of CivIII.

But I do

[ixnay]

I got a preorder of it for my birthday. So I anxiously await its arrival to my door.

[Alex]

Originally posted by Cidifer
vcoulnd't you have actually edited it rather then reply with the word edit in your post?

Yes, I could, but my connection is awful, the forums are slow and the edit feature is even slower... I chose the quickest way.

I'm at work now, of course, so editing it would not be so bad...

Back on topic: I think that PTW will be a worthy addition to Civ3. Pity that many of its features should have been in the original game...

[Cidifer]

Originally posted by I am Ruler
Plus i hav all the time in the world excluding study time and sleep time

just a question, if all you do is study and sleep what are you studying for? I mean if you don't need to go to school then it would seem your not studying for that otherwise that would take up time wouldn't it?

[ruby_maser]

PTW

lets not be silly and pretend that Firaxis made the game as complete as Civ2 (and I'm talking about the lack out airbases and outposts which seem to have been deliberately left out to make PTW more appealing. And I'm as frustrated as everyone else with this. But this "waiting to see" talk is a bunch of garbage. You can wait as long as you want if you are still stamping your feet about them doing this and simply live without the added features... or you can buy it. Civ3 is a seller's market and they know this; its just good business sense to make use of that knowledge. With all this talk about waiting a month or so, it seems Firaxis only alienated you long enough to know for sure that this game is not only the world-standard in single-player turn-based strategy games but now multiplayer too.

See you in the check out line.

[Traelin]

I'm just confused as to why so many people think everything but the kitchen sink should have been included in Civ3. Would I have liked to have seen extra Civs in Civ3? Yes. Would I have liked to have seen a better diplomatic model? Yes. Would it have been nice to include MP in Civ3? Yes.

But all of us have seen the amount of development time that went into Civ3, and the schedule set by Infogrames didn't even allow for a true beta test phase, so why would we expect to see even more features? Plus, isn't it the game company's prerogative to include other features in an XP and make a few extra bucks? It's not like they're fleecing the consumer. In the grand scheme of things, $30 is token funds.

[tobruk]

Are you kidding?!? I wasn't going to buy Civ3 until PTW came out, but temptation got the better of me a couple of weeks ago (I just couldn't wait any longer!).

I was very annoyed that Civ3 didn't come with MP right off the bat -- that's what made Civ2 so interesting, playing against real people makes it much more challenging and fun. I didn't plan to migrate from Civ2 to Civ3 until PTW came out, but I figure a month or so of practice before it does would probably be helpful... I can get the jump on my Civ2 mates on some of the subtleties of the game.

Awesome game BTW, and MP will make it exponentially so.

[Explorer579]

I will be buying it! I just hope it is not as addictive as civ3.

[WarpStorm]

Originally posted by tobruk
I was very annoyed that Civ3 didn't come with MP right off the bat -- that's what made Civ2 so interesting, playing against real people makes it much more challenging and fun.

It's not like Civ2 came with multiplayer right off the bat. I had to pay $30 for it (and $30 was worth more then).

[tobruk]

Originally posted by WarpStorm


It's not like Civ2 came with multiplayer right off the bat. I had to pay $30 for it (and $30 was worth more then).

Yeah, that's true. But since Civ2 MP, I haven't really wanted to go back to AI. I don't care how good it is, you eventually find out how it works and then you're just playing to it's weaknesses. I've only had Civ3 for two weeks and I think I've already figured out how to stop them from declaring war on me -- and when war starts, I think I've found how to turn their forces around. When I have a horde coming at me, my strategy is to attack some units behind it, or take a city behind it, and it seems to invariably turn around. Even if it's right next to one of my cities. A human player would do the right thing and just take out my city first -- *** for tat -- then maybe turn around.

Anyway, regardless of whether the AI is really that st00pid, in general, playing against humans, esp. ones you've played before, is much better. Humans learn very fast and adapt. You have to come up with different strategies all the time. It's just a better game.

Who wants to play Half-Life when they could play Counter-Strike? Hmm, I think I've worn out my soapbox here, time to get off.