To be honest, I don't know if I'll buy PTW

[Ballz1998]

The only reason I would, would be for the single player improvements. Radar Towers, Air Bases, ect. I enjoyed Civ3... well when they finally got all the units and features WORKING. But the unfished release version really pissed me off. I'll definately be waiting at least a month before I buy PTW to make sure they aren't using consumers as beta testers again. It just seems like Civ3 wasn't "finished" without airbases lol. I don't mind paying more money for more features... developement takes money. I just want the features I fricking buy to work right. . .

[Sheik]

I agree. I will be buying PTW but will also be waiting to see what people think. I will also be buying it mostly for the single player stuff, though I will enjoy playing against friends. Hopefully PTW also offers more editing capabilities.

[Raion]

Civ's always been that way.
Which is better? Having a big company do nothing after the game.

Civ III is still the best game, for editing, adding anything to it, and being free enough, so people can still complain about it.
But, I have played other games, and still, they just are not the same.
I buy it because it kind of tradition, still same way Civ II came out, and other games are usually gone before anything happens with them.

[Ballz1998]

Look at the fixes listed in the patches... MAJOR fixes even in the latest patch. And the fact that the limited editon tin was such an absurd ripoff doesn't help matters.

Though, I've been thinking extremely optimistically today so let me run this crazyness by you fellow gamers. Maybe computer games always need patches because of this.

Devs only have so much time to get a product out the door before developement starts cutting into profits. And if you don't make money on the game, you can't make anymore games. Developers could put out a fully functional game that works perfectly. However, this would mean the game would have less content. Instead they decide to do as much as they can in a game, knowing that they will probably be able to work out the kinks later on. Just another way of looking at it, and it might explain why I find computer games so much better than consoles. :-)

[notyoueither]

You may be right Ballz.

I think that anyone who has any doubts should wait. Tune in here and listen to those who love it and hate it. Then make your decision.

If the past is a guide to the future, then there will be patches. There will be improvements.

I'll buy it right away just so I can rip a few Civ2 MP heads off before they figure out how the game works. Once they figure out how to play 3, then I don't know how well I will do.

[Athitis]

Originally posted by notyoueither
[...]
I'll buy it right away just so I can rip a few Civ2 MP heads off before they figure out how the game works. Once they figure out how to play 3, then I don't know how well I will do.

....You are right. I am afraid that only by devoting a large amount of time in MP will I be able to face oppoments that can destroy your whole civ in a matter of minutes. I am especially worried of the warmongers: contrary to the builders, their tactics do not need adaption to use them succesfully. And I am not good at war in civ anyway

Not that I am going to be an easy target, that is!

Btw I am going to buy BtW as soon as I spot it in a shop. I would buy it even if it would only offer the MP ability; abd I am already in love with the Celts...

[zulu9812]

*cough*scenario-editor*cough*

[Jaybe]

I'm bleary eyed from just wading through the llooonnngg 4 pages of the Civfanatics (edited) chat log. Interesting changes coming in PTW (including air unit op range freedom). No firm release date yet. I'll be getting it asap, for SP only.

Coracle was there and was utterly ignored (as befitted the vast majority of his input), except for one or two good suggestions noted by Mike B.

[vmxa1]

CGW has a little review of PWT and was very favorable. Don't matter as I will get it regardless.

[wervdon]

I know I won't immediately, I've already bought alot more video games this year than I normally do, so I only plan to pick up moo3 this fall, and catch ptw in the spring sometime. Probally the same thing with morrowind's expansion too actually.

Nothing against ptw though, it sounds great, but I think moo3 is probally gonna be more bang for the buck if you have to make the choice like I do (although $ to hour ratio, I think civ3 is very close to the best video game ive played)

[Alex]

I'll buy it. But it will be released here after they release it in the USA and Europe, so I'll have some days to enjoy what other people think about it.

But I have so many games to play now... Today I bought Europa Universalis, but I won't have to play it till next weekend, I guess.

[Alex]

EDIT: Won't have time to play it...

[Cidifer]

vcoulnd't you have actually edited it rather then reply with the word edit in your post?

[I am Ruler]

i must buy PTW, after all this talks. althought Civ3 is not well known in my school (they are all Action type) i will and i must.
for Play The World ( i know i'm longwinded but wat the heck!)

[I am Ruler]

Plus i hav all the time in the world excluding study time and sleep time