UGO Preview Part 2 - ESPIONAGE Screen

[Cidifer]

That was my point, obviously you don't care what they show! but you need to relize people who did lose family and friends DO! Also in the US you don't have the right to say whatever you want, that's why there are laws and people who'd kick your ass. Anyway I've yet to meet anyone who has said "I didn't go buy that game\ see that movie because it didn't show the World Trade Center getting blown up" but I know there are thousands of people who can't even stand to watch the tapes or it much less stand to see a completely new version of it being blown up. I personally really don't mind seeing the WTC just standing there. However when things that haven't been released yet show it or the empire state builind or some other famous sky scraper being blown up why not take it out? I mean if you've already released it then there's nothing you can do, also in a few years we'll probably see a bunch of movies with buildings getting blown up again anyway, so who cares if you don't get to see it for a few years. Also in probably 10, 15, 20 they'll be showing the tapes all day and we'll probably have movies about it just like we see tapes and movies of pearl harbor.

[Zero]

sigh i dont think u read all of my boring post... its rather long anyway.. well lets not get too off the topic, and if u wanna keep this up,

People don't have freedom of speech in USA? We allow Ku klux Klan to speak out about how whites are superior and all blacks should be hanged... and if someone attempts to hurt them during the demonstaration, they will be arrested... Dont you know about that? and im repeating this again!

whatever, we should pm me instead of wasting thread space and i'll be more than welcome to chat wit u.

EDIT: Btw out of curiosity, do u live in US? Im not trying to offend you if you do but you don seem to know much about the first amendment issues AND thats my basis for my arguement NOT my opinion.. i havent really stated much of my own opinion about WTC really since its irrelevant.

[Zero]

Originally posted by Cidifer
That was my point, obviously you don't care what they show! but you need to relize people who did lose family and friends DO!

Oh really? Are you sure? If so, how so? How are you sure it is false that some don't care? Have you asked them? Polled them? Or are you expecting them to be sensitive about the WTC?

Also in the US you don't have the right to say whatever you want, that's why there are laws and people who'd kick your ass.

First Amendment and the right to the 1st as long as there is no "clear and present danger". Can you prove the danger?

Anyway I've yet to meet anyone who has said "I didn't go buy that game\ see that movie because it didn't show the World Trade Center getting blown up" but I know there are thousands of people who can't even stand to watch the tapes or it much less stand to see a completely new version of it being blown up.

I never argued including WTC intentionally to boost sales. I don't think that will happen anyway (actually.. some ppl made big publicty off of WTC, artist like Enya and that guy who sings about New york and had WTC on the scene really profited from the attack), But should inclusion of WTC, terrorism or building blowing up have negative impact on sale of anything? That is my real important question!

I personally really don't mind seeing the WTC just standing there. However when things that haven't been released yet show it or the empire state builind or some other famous sky scraper being blown up why not take it out?

Interesting, but I have no interest in your personal opinion, let alone mine as of this moment. What does your or mine opinion belong in any of this?

btw wat does empire state building have to do with WTC and why should scene of emire state be taken out? just because its in ny? then should we have spiderman living in cali? o wait its still in US lets have him live in Paris.

I mean if you've already released it then there's nothing you can do, also in a few years we'll probably see a bunch of movies with buildings getting blown up again anyway, so who cares if you don't get to see it for a few years. Also in probably 10, 15, 20 they'll be showing the tapes all day and we'll probably have movies about it just like we see tapes and movies of pearl harbor.

My point exactly, Loss of a loved one never ends to hurt. My grandfather will grieve over the experience during WW II, I'm sure other's grandfather who were at pearl harbor will feel the same when watching Pearl harbor the movie now. So then, what is the whole tabooness for the WTC for then? If we will see arnold schzweneger drop out of WTC as it is being blown up in spectacular scene 3 years later? Well obviously it's not gonna be for people effected by it since they will deal with it for rest of their life. Then who else? who else will pretend to care and quickly forget and laugh at buildings blowing up once again?

[JonahFalcon]

GGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!

Enough!

I live in New York, and I'm sick of this political crap - if I want politics, I'll turn to CNN.

Stick to the game portions of Civ, pls.

[Zero]

ya well i live in ny too, and like i said i got this thread sooo off topic.

Apologies.

going back to the butons... wil lthey all be ther in final release? that kinda looks real ugly!

Maybe preference has control over how mnay shows on screen... since I use keyboard anyway.

How do i use keyboard for fortify all Btw?

[Dan Magaha FIRAXIS]

Originally posted by Calc II
ya well i live in ny too, and like i said i got this thread sooo off topic.

Apologies.

going back to the butons... wil lthey all be ther in final release? that kinda looks real ugly!

Maybe preference has control over how mnay shows on screen... since I use keyboard anyway.

How do i use keyboard for fortify all Btw?

There is an option to toggle the advanced action buttons on or off.

Dan

[JonahFalcon]

Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS


There is an option to toggle the advanced action buttons on or off.

Dan

Hey Dan, who did I play for the turnless play test? Did you guys read either part of the preview?

[Tiberius]

Originally posted by Dan Magaha FIRAXIS


There is an option to toggle the advanced action buttons on or off.

Dan

Thanks

I wish every desire of us was accepted so fast

[Tiberius]

Originally posted by Calc II

How do i use keyboard for fortify all Btw?

Good question. AFAIK there is no such hotkey. I wish there was, because when I have 30 artilerries, 30 tanks and 6 MIs on the same tile, it requires some patience to scroll down through the whole list until I reach the "fortify all" command.
Oh, but how can you use hotkeys for units that are not selected? Damn. There must be an another solution...let me think...moving the "fortify all" and "wake all" on the top of the units stack (first these 2 and the units after, when right click) ?

[Dan Magaha FIRAXIS]

Originally posted by JonahFalcon


Hey Dan, who did I play for the turnless play test? Did you guys read either part of the preview?

Pat Dawson, the multiplayer programmer, and two Infogrames testers who are onsite with us. I'm pretty sure just about everyone on the project has read both parts of the article -- I have and I'm not even on the project


Dan

[Zero]

Originally posted by Tiberius

Good question. AFAIK there is no such hotkey. I wish there was, because when I have 30 artilerries, 30 tanks and 6 MIs on the same tile, it requires some patience to scroll down through the whole list until I reach the "fortify all" command.
Oh, but how can you use hotkeys for units that are not selected? Damn. There must be an another solution...let me think...moving the "fortify all" and "wake all" on the top of the units stack (first these 2 and the units after, when right click) ?

im not complaining that firaxis made a improvement over hitting 'f' for every single 30 artillery and 60+ tanks in one tile, but having like shift-f as fortify all would make gameplay even more smooth as opposed to using mouse to fortify them all. As the old korean saying goes I guess, "once you sit you wanna lie down"