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Where will the mongols 4-2-2 mounted UU show up on the tech tree?

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  • Where will the mongols 4-2-2 mounted UU show up on the tech tree?

    Any ideas? If it is early-mid ancient age it will be devastating.

    I can't wait to play the mongols.

  • #2
    I've heard it will be a cheap knight replacement.

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    • #3
      Same here, cheaper, and goes through mountains like grassland (?).
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      • #4
        Originally posted by WarpStorm
        Same here, cheaper, and goes through mountains like grassland (?).
        I can confirm that. Heard that too.

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        • #5
          That would make sense, as Genghis Khan came west around that time.
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          • #6
            If I look to the factor 4.2.2, I think it will be an early MiddleAgeUnit. Knight replacement I think.
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            • #7
              I think that they would be exactly the same as knight except one defense less. (reminds you of civ II knight anyonw?) Normally, if uber units wouldn't get any stat increase, it would have to be balanced with cost reduction or no resource req (like elephants). but obviously keshik is a mounted unit and it even gets stat reduction.

              This is gonna be one cheap knight... how much are they normally? 40? 50? Keshik might be as cheap as 20 or 30... which means Mass invasion thru keshiks... which would be very effective.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Calc II
                This is gonna be one cheap knight... how much are they normally? 40? 50? Keshik might be as cheap as 20 or 30... which means Mass invasion thru keshiks... which would be very effective.
                But given the... strange combat engine of CivIII, dozens of keshiks would always kill any defending unit, even if it is much more powerful! Sounds unbalancing to my ears...

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                • #9
                  ALL the units are getting tweaked (IIRC), so a spearman might not be 1-2-1 anymore, but it probably is
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by UberKruX
                    ALL the units are getting tweaked (IIRC), so a spearman might not be 1-2-1 anymore, but it probably is
                    Really? Source?

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                    • #11
                      they'll probably tweak stuff like ships and aircraft, IMHO.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by UberKruX
                        ALL the units are getting tweaked (IIRC), so a spearman might not be 1-2-1 anymore, but it probably is

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by UberKruX
                          ALL the units are getting tweaked (IIRC), so a spearman might not be 1-2-1 anymore, but it probably is
                          Oh, is that so? Source? I hope they change the Spearman to 1.3.1! More information on CivFanaticsCenter: Persian Immo's
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                          LionQ.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Calc II
                            This is gonna be one cheap knight... how much are they normally? 40? 50? Keshik might be as cheap as 20 or 30... which means Mass invasion thru keshiks... which would be very effective.
                            The Knight costs 70 Shields at the moment? So a MongolKeshik of 30 Shields will be very lucrative!
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                            LionQ.

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                            • #15
                              a 4-2-2 unit sounds more like an upgraded Longswordmen (planned 4-2-1) than a knight replacement. The cost cutting would have to be great to make up for the loss of 1 defensive point.

                              The Celtic unit sounds lilek a powerhouse. 3-2-2 unit with ironworking? A far more powerful unit than any other swordman replacement (get to retreat unlike immortal)
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