What about terraforming?

[Dinner]

There are a ton of things like terraforming that I would like to see added, however, Firaxis will not put any of it in. I've heard several reasons way ranging from the designers like the game as it is to Firaxis is lazy. The bottom line though is that if you want things like terraforming then you'll have to play CTP2. CTP2 is the only game that has the flexability to make most player's desires.

[sabrewolf]

Originally posted by WarpStorm
I haven't seen one word about terraforming in the stuff Firaxis has released. I doubt if it is in there as that's futuristic stuff.

not really.
we partially can do terraforming today:
- turn coastal tiles into grassland (look at holland)
- redirect rivers

[statusperfect]

I think the terrain is too nice as it is. Please Firaxis. I Want more deserts and tundra. On a normal map there isn't enough of it.

And for terraforming... SCREW IT!!!

[Caliban]

Originally posted by statusperfect
I think the terrain is too nice as it is. Please Firaxis. I Want more deserts and tundra. On a normal map there isn't enough of it.

You forgot jungle...

[Firebird]

In scenarios it is IMHO sad that we can't do terraforming. In normal play it doesn't matter as much. But as sabrewolf said we do it to some extend today.

I would also like options to fill more land on the planet than just between 20 and 40%. I know earth is around 30% land, but Im very rarely playing on earth. Think of a Mars-scenario like the one from civ2. Almost no water-tiles (at the beginning at least).

[sabrewolf]

Originally posted by Firebird
In scenarios it is IMHO sad that we can't do terraforming. In normal play it doesn't matter as much. But as sabrewolf said we do it to some extend today.

even if terraforming is mostly unrealistic, to remove the hardcoding (not allowing new worker actions) would be a good thing.

I would also like options to fill more land on the planet than just between 20 and 40%. I know earth is around 30% land, but Im very rarely playing on earth. Think of a Mars-scenario like the one from civ2. Almost no water-tiles (at the beginning at least).

i noticed, that my 40%-land games are nearly double as long as the 20% land games. only the tech-rate is faster with more land (--> more cities --> more science). if you'd choose huge landmass with 80% land, probably most computers would break down

but again: remove the hardcoding!

i could immagine, that the random map generator doesn't work with higher values. but we could ask gramphos to try and tweak these limitations

[WarpStorm]

Adding worker actions would be nealy impossible to do with their current editor. How would you add the new code that goes with a new worker action? This is not like adding a unit, where all you are doing is punching numbers and flags. Unless Firaxis came up with a whole bunch of worker actions that weren't used by default I don't see how this would work.

[sabrewolf]

Originally posted by WarpStorm
Adding worker actions would be nealy impossible to do with their current editor. How would you add the new code that goes with a new worker action? This is not like adding a unit, where all you are doing is punching numbers and flags. Unless Firaxis came up with a whole bunch of worker actions that weren't used by default I don't see how this would work.

currently, it wouldn't go.

but with two extra textfields, it would be possible:

convert [......] into [.......]
so you could bring back remove/build hills, convert grassland into whatever... not that i'd permanently mod it in, but it's nice to have.

[Galvatron]

Well terraforming would be a good idea because otherwise you would stick to some useless deserts or wastelands the whole game which we are doing at the moment. You could enhance the productivity of the squares and bump up your city and it's not as futuristic as some people might say think of today where there are numerous projects to transform the desert into a fruitful land and they are successful.

[Adagio]

Originally posted by Galvatron
[...] and it's not as futuristic as some people might say think of today where there are numerous projects to transform the desert into a fruitful land and they are successful.

But has anyone transfered Mount everest into grassland? Or a dessert into ice?

[Kramsib]

There is no sense transforming dessert into ice, but in a beautiful grassland, that is what I want, I want to save my people from desertization.

Someone hit the nail, a mars scenario would need terraforming.

And submarine and space colonies

[Adagio]

Originally posted by Kramsib
There is no sense transforming dessert into ice, but in a beautiful grassland, that is what I want, I want to save my people from desertization.

Sure, there's no sense in doing it, but I remember it was possible in both Civ2 and ctp1/2


If the time, it takes to terraform something couldn't be affected (much) by adding more workers, and the terraforming abilities was greatly reduced (So that e.g. turning mount everest into grassland is imposible), then it might be nice to have

[Panag]

hi ,

indeed that is an option that should be included , ....

mountains and hills not , but all the other types of terrain should go , it should be costly , but reachable , ....

there should be an option to set it only for the human player (!)

have a nice day

[Galvatron]

Originally posted by ADG


But has anyone transfered Mount everest into grassland?

Well perhaps with some nukes. Might be an idea to terraform with nuke-rockets and Mount Everest would be easier to walk if it's grassland.

But you're right limit the possibilities to logical solutions and it would be a nice addition to the game. So we can stop desertization.

Away with these stormy deserts we want green islands!!

[Panag]

Originally posted by Galvatron


Well perhaps with some nukes. Might be an idea to terraform with nuke-rockets and Mount Everest would be easier to walk if it's grassland.

But you're right limit the possibilities to logical solutions and it would be a nice addition to the game. So we can stop desertization.

Away with these stormy deserts we want green islands!!

hi ,

, that is why there should be a couple options ;

global warming on , pollution on
global warming on , pollution off
global warming off , pollution off
global warming off , pollution on

the last one shall be used the most , ....

have a nice day