Expel Units--the return of the Boot

[Ijuin]

I would like to see the player's military units able to expel units of other civs. Basically, if an AI civ moves units into your territory, and you are neither at war, nor have an ROP agreement, you can move your units onto them like a normal attack, but you will be given the option of either declaring war OR immediatally expelling the AI units. Expelled units will instantly teleport to the nearest city of their own Civ. This can be done with no reputation penalty, although repeatedly expelling a Civ's units will tend to lower their regard for you since it annoys them.

[Cookie Monster]

I agree. Loved this option in Civ2 and the CtP series. I believe it was even present in SMAC/X. Bring it back to Civ3!

[dunk]

It was only possible to expel the spy or diplomat units in Civ II. I beleive SMAC was the same way. You couldn't expel a tank or archer. ZOC made it much easier to keep regular military units out of your territory.

What I would like to see:

1) Every time you ask a civ to remove its troops, a option comes up, "Leave or declare war." or "Please leave".

2) Very good idea about the units returning to a city belonging to the same civ. The capital would be my choice.

[Carver]

Originally posted by dunk


1) Every time you ask a civ to remove its troops, a option comes up, "Leave or declare war." or "Please leave".

Yes, that would be much better than the near random system we have now. As for the original post, yes an expel feature should be in. In CTP you could expel any non-military unit, c3 should at least do that.

[epikur]

an auto expel toggle button would be nice

- you auto expelled english knight near kansas
- you auto expelled german fighter
- you auto expelled dumb dutch worker but they have now declared war


:/

[Optimizer]

Good idea!

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by dunk
2) Very good idea about the units returning to a city belonging to the same civ. The capital would be my choice.

I like your ideas, but I could see myself really getting hosed if my units were shipped back to the capitol. Like my forces are waiting just outside their territory, their culture expands, and suddenly I either go to war or the units are back home. Hmm., of course a slight adjustment in my tactics and this would not be a problem.

[Panag]

hi ,

great , ... , it should cost some money , and only a special unit should be able to do it , ...- spy

have a nice day

[Galvatron]

Yes this is an option we need urgently it's more than annoying all those foreign units march through your territory I think all units should be capable of doing it but it should be logical because I doubt very much that an archer-unit is able to expel a tank-battalion they would more or less laugh at him.

Regarding the idea of a special unit: Hmm perhaps a unit called “The Expeller” so you have a diplomatic options that says: “Be nice or I will call the Expeller”

[Panag]

Originally posted by Galvatron
Yes this is an option we need urgently it's more than annoying all those foreign units march through your territory I think all units should be capable of doing it but it should be logical because I doubt very much that an archer-unit is able to expel a tank-battalion they would more or less laugh at him.

Regarding the idea of a special unit: Hmm perhaps a unit called “The Expeller” so you have a diplomatic options that says: “Be nice or I will call the Expeller”

hi ,

, intresting , ....

we need a additional type of warning then the one we have now , ....

yeah it would be a great add on

have a nice day

[Mannamagnus]

Originally posted by epikur
- you auto expelled dumb dutch worker but they have now declared war


:/

I'm a dumb Dutch worker and would like to be expelled to an island in the South Pacific. Bora Bora would do nicely.

[jsw363]

I hate the way in which units are expelled from territory. Often I am stuck in no man's land surrounded by another's territory. There is no way to leave without inciting a war, so my unit is essentially trapped. It's also a bit unrealistic when dealing with islands that someone is just teleported across many ocean tiles to a free square without a ship. Mirabile Dictu!

This is definitely something that needs to be fixed.

[Firebird]

Originally posted by dunk
It was only possible to expel the spy or diplomat units in Civ II. I beleive SMAC was the same way. You couldn't expel a tank or archer. ZOC made it much easier to keep regular military units out of your territory.

What I would like to see:

1) Every time you ask a civ to remove its troops, a option comes up, "Leave or declare war." or "Please leave".

2) Very good idea about the units returning to a city belonging to the same civ. The capital would be my choice.

1) I totally agree. That and perhaps some kind of auto button would be nice.

2) I think it should simply return to the nearest of your cities. You could still end up having a unit sent half around the globe though.

[NY Hoya]

it should return your units to the last tile of unclaimed territory/your own territory that those units occupied.

[Kampus majore]

Originally posted by epikur
- you auto expelled dumb dutch worker but they have now declared war
:/

Excuse me? Hah, darn right they declared war and they will kick your a$$!