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    will PTW be a standalone game or does it require a civ3vanilla-installation?
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  • #2
    You do not really want an answer to this...

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    • #3
      Hehe, he means NO, you have to buy the orignal game first! Thats Fraxis nicking your money!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rob.derosa
        Hehe, he means NO, you have to buy the orignal game first! Thats Fraxis nicking your money!
        i've got an original version, but some multi-player-fans won't want to buy two things, just for one game.

        it would be healthier for infogrames to sell a standalone version for just slightly more... after all, all civ-fans (single player, that is), already bought civ3
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        • #5
          it won't be too long until the original and expansion appear in some kind of "Civ3 Gold" or "Civ3 Complete" box
          ... that will mean you'll only have to buy one box, although the price will be slightly higher.
          If I'm posting here then Counterglow must be down.

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          • #6
            well, see, the nature of an expansion pack is...

            (hw:c is the exception to a rule)
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            • #7
              It would be worst to sell it stand alone! Then it would be like buying the whole game over again just for extras. (Sim City 3000/Sim CIty 3000 Unlimited)

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              • #8
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Q Cubed
                  well, see, the nature of an expansion pack is...

                  (hw:c is the exception to a rule)
                  And Half-Life: Blue Shift.

                  And CivII Test of Time comes to mind.....I'm pretty sure it was similar to the mentioned SimCity 3000 situation...
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rob.derosa
                    Hehe, he means NO, you have to buy the orignal game first! Thats Fraxis nicking your money!
                    Yea, typical.

                    HEY FIRAXIS GUYS. . . how about doing a little coding for a change and selling a PTW Deluxe (or some other name)? You can give those who want it the option of getting FIXED all the stuff we hate, such as Flipping borders and cities; crazy levels of settler expansion; lame naval warfare and useless privateers and subs;
                    bombers with a realistic range (above '8'); less AI cheating; and all the other things some of us despise.
                    That includes an end to the stupid UNLIMITED MP's on RR's, and not being able to use unpillaged roads when invading.

                    Even I'd pay for it.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JtheJackal
                      It would be worst to sell it stand alone! Then it would be like buying the whole game over again just for extras. (Sim City 3000/Sim CIty 3000 Unlimited)
                      true! if XP costs ~35$ and vanilla ~50$... and the XP is fully working, who would buy the original version?

                      but 35$ is a bit much for having the same game with a few new -not very revolutionary- features and just 8 new civs.
                      i'm mainly looking forward to the diplomacy editing for scenarios...
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                      • #12
                        SC3K:U wasn't an expansion pack per se.

                        and HL:BS is again, an exception to the rule. although, i have it, i don't think you can actually install it without the HL game on your HD... even if it does run off its own cd.
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                        • #13
                          fyi: PTW is NOT standalone, if i understood the CFC-chat correctly. but there's going to be some kind of cheaper civ3-edition for people who don't want to but civ3, but want PTW

                          .... of did i get it wrong?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Q Cubed
                            SC3K:U wasn't an expansion pack per se.
                            That's his point if you wanted the new building sets you had to buy the game all over again.

                            and HL:BS is again, an exception to the rule. although, i have it, i don't think you can actually install it without the HL game on your HD... even if it does run off its own cd.
                            Blue Shift is a stand alone game, you can also get it for PS2 (and maybe dreamcast, did that one ever come out?).

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                            • #15
                              I would pay MUCHO MUCHO MUCHO MUCHO money for only 2 things, be it add on, stand alone PTW supergold, whatever:

                              DIPLOMACY must be complex, huge, masterful, articulate, massive, every-treaty-type-in-existance, all including multidimensional, UN incorperating, foreignpolicy slut mongering.

                              GOVERNMENTS must be wide, varying complicated, controlable, SMAClike, parliament tweaking, senate robbing, all-philosophies-under-the-sun, wide spectrum, propagande using, people voting (or not), foreign loathing, poiltical beasts.

                              If they could do that, I would pay more money then you've ever seen before. I'd make FIRAXIS roll in their own cash. There wouldn't be a cent left on this earth not being funeled into their big thick juicy hairy dripping wallets...

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