New Nations' Characteristics

[PMLF]

What do you think will be the characteristics for the new nations?

The Celts will be militaristic/Religious

What about the other nations?

[Hagbart]

Re: New Nations' Characteristics

Originally posted by PMLF
What do you think will be the characteristics for the new nations?

The Celts will be militaristic/Religious

What about the other nations?

Maybe the Celts are expansionist, they settled over most of western Europe.

[Hagbart]

I think the Vikings are commercial and expansionist or militaristic.

They traded in most parts of Europe, settled in Greenland/Iceland/America/France/Germany/England and more places, but they attacked and stole too, so it is hard to say...

[ixnay]

From the latest batch of screens, it's confirmed that Celts are Mil/Rel.

[Spiffor]

Firaxians also stated the Spanish are Religious / Commercial
Mongols are Expansionistic / Militaristic

At least now we're sure the Arabs won't be Mil/Rel maybe they'll be Religious and Scientific (with all discoveries they've done during their golden age)

I guess Koreans will be something like Industrious / Scientific.

Vikings being Commercial / Militaristic make sense, or perhaps Expansionistic (but we know them because of their wars, so I bet Firaxis will go for militaristic)

Turks will be most probably Religious. Religious / Expansionistic makes sense, but it also makes sense for the Arabs. But the Turks have been less scientific than the Arabs during their golden age, so Rel / Exp is more likely to happen, Arabs remaining Rel / Sci.

I assume Carthaginians will be commercial of some sort. Maybe Industrious / Commercial.

[DarkCloud]

I think the Vikings are commercial and expansionist or militaristic.

They traded in most parts of Europe, settled in Greenland/Iceland/America/France/Germany/England and more places, but they attacked and stole too, so it is hard to say...

Considering that most people don't know about the Vikings trading with Constantinople, etc. They'll probably go with the common option (taking over Russia )
Thus, I can guess Militaristic/Expansionistic (although they weren't really that expansionistic in the sense of settling new areas)

The best thing would be commercial/militaristic...
But I doubt firaxis will do that

[bigvic]

Spanish religious/COMMERCIAL?!

Really?
Religious, yes, but commercial? I just don't get it. Expansionist, but the Spanish couldn't do business right until they joined the EU. Thats why they fell so far behind northern europe - they dug out all those minerals from the new world and bought weapons from the northern europeans to fight the same until all the minerals dried up and without a solid mercantile economy never recovered, until Franco croaked.

Sometimes I wonder if Sid really does have a history degree. If this is the case, that is....

[monkspider]

You are forgetting the unbelieveable ammounts of gold Spain got from the Amerindians, which was the only real ambition for their various New World adventures. So much in fact, it created a massive inflation that led to the peasent class being utterly bankrupt for centuries. Religious/Commerical fits like a charm, IMHO.

Also, I don't think the Ottomans are a very good fit for the religious trait. Certainly they were not any more religious than say, France or England. Just because they were a muslim nation means they were generally fanatical fundamentalists. Today the possess the unique trait of being about the only secular, mainstream islamic nation.

[bigvic]

Gee, i don't follow that reasoning, monkspider. The spaniards had other reasons for going to the new world, too. Just because a civ isn't commercial don't mean it isnt greedy. Spain's economy was run by archaic, monopolistic guilds when the joint stock company was evolving in real commercial civs to the north. The ability to, by brute force, loot less technologically advanced civs and force their people to mine huge amounts of gold & silver does not equate to commercial. In fact, the spaniards were so bass ackwards commercially that they only alowed trade once a year in 3 places, santo domingo, colon, panama, and veracruz, mexico. If you lived in argantina and wanted to buy some european manufactured goods, you had to go all the way to one of these places, thousands of miles. In fact, the people of these places were so starved by this backwards economic system that many actually looked forward to english pirates, who, "forced" them to buy cheap, high quality english manufactured goods unavailable otherwise.

No, spain has never been a commercial civ until recently.

[bigvic]

PS

Besides, after one of the most, if not the most, spectacular conquests ever, that of a huge chunk of the new world, how could they NOT be considered expansionist?

[Ribannah]

It's hard to find a second civ with the scientific trade among them, Arabia being the first. Firaxis certainly values conquest above science! Korea comes closest, I guess. So this would be my take:

Spain Rel/Exp
Korea Ind/Sci
Mongols Mil/Exp
Ottomans Mil/Com
Carthage Com/Ind
Arabia Rel/Sci
Celts Rel/Mil
Vikings Exp/Com

[Dinner]

All the false propoganda about printing presses aside; I wouldn't make Korea Scientific. Commercial is just a better fit.
Ottomans should be Mil/Exp
Arabs Rel/Com
Spain Rel/Exp
Mongols Mil/Exp
Carthage Com/Ind
Vikings Exp/Com

Having the Celts as Mil/Rel is a good choice but I would have been tempted to go with commercial, due to the Celts making the first trans-european trading network, or even Scientific, due to Celts being the first Europeans to invent Ironworking & they came up with their own alphabet.

[Dinner]

i also hope they increase the number of wonders since we will now have more civs competing for those wonders. Stonehedge would be a great Celtic wonder.

[statusperfect]

Oerdin> There will be new wonders in PTW.

[Firebird]

Originally posted by DarkCloud

Considering that most people don't know about the Vikings trading with Constantinople, etc. They'll probably go with the common option (taking over Russia )
Thus, I can guess Militaristic/Expansionistic (although they weren't really that expansionistic in the sense of settling new areas)

The best thing would be commercial/militaristic...
But I doubt firaxis will do that

Well, they settled in Iceland/Greenland/Northamerica/England/Ireland/Northern France/Russia.

Here's an interesting link:

http://viking.no/e/etimeline.htm

They should be commercial and expansionistic with a good military unit to do the raiding.

Best regards