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  • Cultural value of captured cities should stay!

    Say the French have Paris,
    Paris contains some old churches, The Eiffel Tower, and more of that cultural stuff.

    Now I, the rampaging dutch hordes, take over Paris.
    unfortunately we burn down the old temple, but the eiffel tower and the Sacre Coeur (or what is it named like?) survive the fight.

    Why would Paris suddenly have left over no cultural value at all? The eiffel tower and the Cathedral still have a cultural value. Pherhaps even more because it was build by the ancient french. Of course there's no cultural value for the lost temple anymore (unless there's one wall left over, like some city somewhere in the middel east has )

    Thus, I say that in Civ3:PtW the change should be made that big cities keep the cultural value earned by the 'left over' buildings after being captured.

    It makes no sence that such a city is completely cultural downgraded after an attack.
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    It's still French culture (not Dutch), the Dutch won't get any culture points from the buildings they didn't build themselves.
    Last edited by Gangerolf; August 3, 2002, 11:03.
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    • #3
      No culture points for buildings you didn't build... easy formula.

      Btw, the Germans conquered Paris once, and weren't interested in cultural... affairs.

      As is any invader.

      Even the Dutch.

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      • #4
        Re: Cultural value of captured cities should stay!

        However a number of years later, they shjould begin getting culture again. The ancient egyptians build the pyramids but now modern day egyptians are getting 'culture points' for it.
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        • #5
          Re: Re: Cultural value of captured cities should stay!

          Originally posted by Tassadar5000
          The ancient egyptians build the pyramids but now modern day egyptians are getting 'culture points' for it.
          Well, this happens also in Civ3 every time I play as the Egyptians.
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          • #6
            Re: Re: Re: Cultural value of captured cities should stay!

            Originally posted by lockstep


            Well, this happens also in Civ3 every time I play as the Egyptians.


            I mean ancient egyptians built it and muslim 'egyptians' are getting culture points. If you didnt know already.
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            • #7
              So what you're saying is the Dutch shouldn't generate any culture from the Temple/Wonder they now control unless they remodel it in a Dutch theme? So, does that mean they would have to build a big windmill on to it to make it generate Dutch culture?

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              • #8
                Yeah, if you are Dutch, you should be able to add a windmill to the top of any wonder you capture. Then it should start generating culture for you.
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                • #9
                  I'm sure that if we, the dutch, will conquer Egypt (blink, and we did it! ) of course first there will be a few years of resistance, but after, let's say 10 years........... the pyramids will have the same cultural value they ever had.

                  It's not suddenly like people will say: "Oh mam, let's visit those new pyramids build by the dutch 10 years ago"

                  Btw, the Germans conquered Paris once, and weren't interested in cultural... affairs.


                  That's because there were some USSR people knocking on their east door, and some Canadian / Britisch / American guys who were knocking on ther west door.

                  But if you would have given them more time, they would surely have loved to visit Paris from Germany to see the Eiffel Tower.
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                  • #11
                    After a certain amount of time - perhaps when the city's population is completely assimilated - the wonders should start generating culture again.

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Dimorier Maximus
                      Yeah, if you are Dutch, you should be able to add a windmill to the top of any wonder you capture. Then it should start generating culture for you.
                      or plant a tulip field in front of it to have the same effect
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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by ixnay37
                        After a certain amount of time - perhaps when the city's population is completely assimilated - the wonders should start generating culture again.
                        hi ,

                        , nope its fine the way its now , ....
                        there is even a sence of logic (!) behind it , .....

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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by ixnay37
                          After a certain amount of time - perhaps when the city's population is completely assimilated - the wonders should start generating culture again.
                          This may need fine-tuning (because 'completely assimilated' could mean 'never' in a lot of cases), but I actually like the idea.
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                          • #15
                            there is even a sence of logic (!) behind it , .....


                            No, there is not.
                            The pyramids won't start with a cultural ZERO value after being captured. Their cultural value will be the same. The city will keep it's cultural value and famousness.

                            Paris won't be a cultural ZERO city after being captured.

                            there's no logic behind that.
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