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Originally posted by Harm
I still want to be able to give mechanical units (i.e. jet fighters, bombers, tanks, mech inf, etc.) to another civ as a means of assisting them during wars. It's a tactic used in modern times and should be an option.
hi ,
sounds great , but there should be the option to give or not to give the tech with it , ....
Originally posted by hzm
Why wasn't unit trading in the game in the first place? You can already sell workers and settlers.
hi ,
indeed , but there is a bug with that , imagine you have 20 workers from 5 different civ's , then they show all like yours in that city , so you dont know the id of the one you are sending abroad , .....
before it was not like that , Firaxis , please fix this
and there should be more trading of those two units between players , ....
has anyone heard if any of these diplomatic things have been added in PTW or if they are planning to add any? I do think some type of extra negotiation needs to be added, the setup is just to simple as is.
I hate the idea of a trade embargo of certain resources. Its rediculous! Noone would ever stand for an embargo of that type without embargoing everything on you. its like saying when you declare war.........
I just thought of a really good idea. I think it should be possible to make treaties that would only take certain tiles. Basically it would draw your borders exactly as you want them.You wouldnt be able to expand your borders more than a few extra tiles (lets say two just for discussion purposes). This would be really useful for those wars that you won but without takin cities and you dont think you can take a city.
"It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it."-Robert E. Lee
Originally posted by TexasPride
I hate the idea of a trade embargo of certain resources. Its rediculous! Noone would ever stand for an embargo of that type without embargoing everything on you. its like saying when you declare war.........
Thats rediculous!!!!!! I can't think of a single war in which two nations only fought in a certain region and in the rest of world shook hands and went about thier business. Its rediculous!! Maybe im misunderstanding you but the idea of an agreement to fight only in a certain area is not even near maintainable or for that matter realistic!!!
Anyways that's beside the point....
WHat im tryin to say here is that embargoing certain goods and not others it unrealistic and no one in the human race would stand for it. Even with alternate history the way humans react and think doesnt change!
In conclusion, while it is physically possible to embargo certain goods it is unrealistic and hypocrytical to do so.
"It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it."-Robert E. Lee
Originally posted by TexasPride
Thats rediculous!!!!!! I can't think of a single war in which two nations only fought in a certain region and in the rest of world shook hands and went about thier business. Its rediculous!! Maybe im misunderstanding you but the idea of an agreement to fight only in a certain area is not even near maintainable or for that matter realistic!!!
Anyways that's beside the point....
WHat im tryin to say here is that embargoing certain goods and not others it unrealistic and no one in the human race would stand for it. Even with alternate history the way humans react and think doesnt change!
In conclusion, while it is physically possible to embargo certain goods it is unrealistic and hypocrytical to do so.
The cold war would be a good example .
It would also be intresting to see a type of small conflict , not a full scale war .
Or a type of border conflict , like the US / Mexican border , there is no war there , yet there is a small war against drugs and illegal immigrants .
Stuff like that would be great .
For one thing the Cold War was not a war at all. More like a diplomatic power struggle. It was mainly an arms race though and no US troops ever fought any russian troops in that span of time.
As for your drug war......OH PLZ that's a freakin law enforcement deal. Your Illegal immigrants is not a war at all! That's just enforcein borders. If you can't tell the difference I would think twice fore goin to war with any one cause the AI sure don't have that prob. Furthermore what the **** do you know 'bout what goes on over here on the US/Mexico Border, I seem to notice you live in Israel. Your not even in the US. I happen to live right at the forefront of what you're ATTEMPTING to talk about. I live in TEXAS! If you want a way to simulate illegals than simply have them immigrate cross borders to more advanced and developed civs from 2nd rate ones.
Sure havein a small war that is contained would be interestin' in alot of respects but would be completely impossible once you consider the human mind.
ALSO BESIDE THE POINT!!!
I'm not tryin to say anything 'bout confined wars, I started out tryin to make a point about embargos on specific items. (The analogy seems to have drawn all the people in this forum who have no concept of what and how war is.) So I repeat IT WAS JUST A THOUGHT. If you don't like what I think then say you disagree and we'll go on bout our business, but if you try to argue (well don't cause I almost never say anything I can't back up fully and entirely) I will feel the need to make a point on where the arguement is flawed.
"It is well that war is so terrible, otherwise we should grow too fond of it."-Robert E. Lee
Originally posted by TexasPride
Thats rediculous!!!!!! I can't think of a single war in which two nations only fought in a certain region and in the rest of world shook hands and went about thier business. Its rediculous!! Maybe im misunderstanding you but the idea of an agreement to fight only in a certain area is not even near maintainable or for that matter realistic!!!
Anyways that's beside the point....
WHat im tryin to say here is that embargoing certain goods and not others it unrealistic and no one in the human race would stand for it. Even with alternate history the way humans react and think doesnt change!
In conclusion, while it is physically possible to embargo certain goods it is unrealistic and hypocrytical to do so.
Well, I believe that in WWII the Germans and the English agreed not to bomb certain of each other's cities. Also consider the "smart sanctions" that have been considered against Iraq -- sanctions of weapons but not other certain other goods. In other words, targeted sanctions.
Of course, in MP, players will be free to make their own agreements outside of what is allowed in the diplomacy box. The main thing is to give them the tools to do so, which should probably include, among other things:
1. Allow the unilateral cancellation of agreements before they are up without a declaration of war (results in a big reputation hit, obviously).
2. Allow civs to negotiate the cancellation of agreements before they are up (e.g, "I'll give you 50 gold to cancel our MPP and trade deal X).
3. Allow players to specify how long any part of a deal lasts, instead of always having 20 turns (e.g., "In exchange for providing me with iron for the next 40 turns, I'll give you 5 gold per turn for the next 50 turns).
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