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  • #16
    Why not do it like SMAC did? Allow the UN (or its early game equilivant) to meet early on, without the building? Whoever would build the building itself would get certain advantages, like the wonders in SMAC (the names escape me) that gave you extra votes), and until the building was built, certain diplomatic arrangements wouldn't be available. This way you still have incentive to build the UN (no diplomatic victory until than), but before that, you can still meet and stuff.
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    • #17
      Said it before, say it again:

      We need the UN
      Grrr | Pieter Lootsma | Hamilton, NZ | grrr@orcon.net.nz
      Waikato University, Hamilton.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by kring
        It is not an easy victory; esp. for a weaker nation.

        You have to treat the other civs fairly in order to even try and win this way. Another factor would be your civ's overall opinion by the other civs.

        Try being a warmonger and winning this way. Highly unlikely. Try being a backstabber; same odds pretty much.

        It is much harder to win through nonmilitary means in this game then through military means. A halfway competent military leader can easily achieve victory with little or no problems. I have won all different ways, and the military ones were the easiest, no challenge. Try to go a game without starting a war and win. Not so easy. Try to win domination without war. Again, not so easy.

        I typically play non warlike, but I do build up a large defense force, since the AI views small military as a sign of weakness and will try to bully or attack such a civ.

        That may be, but in my experience, I hardly ever go for war, generally I end up using a diplomatic victory when I am on the verge of loosing a space race victory. So when I say easy victory I am talking about my play style. Before I even start building my spaceport I would have built a UN, then went for space race. Never allowed a vote to happen unless I needed it.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Grrr
          Said it before, say it again:

          We need the UN
          hi ,

          agreed , and it could work like the barbarians , ...

          have a nice day
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          • #20
            A rather recent discussion on the topic: How to fix the UN

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            • #21
              So that's why the "How to Fix the UN" thread is back at the top, I hadn't seen it in a long time.
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